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r/valueinvestingr/valueinvesting· u/AggressiveAd9058· 2 天前Discussion 11

我对耐克下周发布财报的看法

投资者摘要看空

耐克面临严重的自我战略失误、库存问题和疲软的财报指引,预示着即将发布的财报可能表现不佳。

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  • 放弃批发转向DTC以及稀释核心IP等自我造成的战略失误,严重损害了品牌资产。
  • 中国和EMEA等关键区域存在结构性管理不善,加上大量库存积压,修复时间将远超预期。
  • 第四季度营收指引疲软,且极有可能低于106亿美元的门槛,表明基本面持续疲软。
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耐克下周将发布财报。管理层早已提醒我们,不要期待任何重大突破。

近年来公司似乎出了不少问题,最糟糕的是,这些问题大多都是自找的。

  1. 全力转向直接面向消费者模式,砍掉批发合作伙伴,彻底破坏了这些关系。
  1. 大量推出AF1、AJ1、Dunks等产品,导致部分最成功的品牌系列热度被透支。
  1. 过度追逐生活方式收入,几乎放弃了运动性能这一核心定位(我认为这是重大的战略失误)。
  1. 他们最差的决策之一,是为一个从未达到预期规模的数字业务搭建了固定成本结构。
  1. 错判了中国市场的渠道动态,导致线上和线下库存同时堆积。
  1. 欧洲、中东和非洲(EMEA)市场存在结构性管理问题,但管理层的应对方式只是靠增加销量来掩盖,而非解决根本弱点。
  1. 在品牌价值削弱、全渠道库存高企的情况下,试图一次性解决所有问题,反而让局面更加恶化。

如今管理层坚称正在纠正这些错误。他们主要想传递的论点是:公司从未失去其根本优势(与运动员的关系、创新能力、品牌价值、批发渠道、全球规模等),所有问题本质上都源于执行不力。

在以往的财报电话会上,他们已相当明确地表示,复苏时间比最初预估的要长,某些地区的状况也比最初诊断的更复杂。与中国和北美相比,中国和EMEA市场存在结构性短板,需要更多时间。

他们已指引第四季度营收将同比下降2%至4%,对应去年Q4的111亿美元。如果实际营收低于106亿美元,对耐克来说将是严重负面信号。他们押注北美市场能表现出韧性,但如果这一预期落空,他们的叙事就将崩塌。

我正在跟踪公司接下来财报中的约24个具体里程碑,如果有兴趣,我会分享最新进展。目前投资者最关心的,是耐克能否真正弥补过去的失误,并坚持其提出的“清理整顿”策略。

我个人认为,当前股价28倍远期市盈率已经偏贵,尤其是我们能获得的最佳信号也只是基本面下滑速度放缓,而非逆转。以这样一个薄弱的基础支撑28倍估值,实在难以令人信服。

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u/nyokki0507 6· 2 天前

Strong writeup. I agree the 28x is the crux, but I'd frame the problem slightly differently: the multiple isn't expensive on today's earnings, it's expensive on a denominator that's still falling. EPS is around $1.52 on what used to be a much higher base, so 28x isn't really "paying 28x for Nike," it's paying 28x for a depressed E that the bull case assumes snaps back. The multiple and the earnings recovery are the same bet wearing two hats.

So the honest question isn't "is 28x too high for Nike," it's "what does normalized EPS have to be for this to be cheap?" If they can get back toward prior earnings power over a few years, today's price is reasonable on that future number. If North America strength doesn't materialize and China/EMEA reset structurally lower, then the E never recovers and you're holding a melting multiple. That's why your $10.6B revenue line is the right thing to watch. It's a clean checkpoint for whether the denominator stabilizes.

The part that makes me cautious is the same one you flagged: the best-case signal next week is "decline is slowing." That tells you the second derivative is improving, but you're paying a recovery multiple for confirmation of a bottom, not the recovery itself. Brand equity and athlete relationships are real and probably do put a floor under it, but "fixable" and "fixed" are years apart, and you're paying today for the gap.

Genuinely interested in your 24 milestones. The thing I'd want most is which ones are leading vs lagging. Inventory and China sell-through tell you about the next year. Reported revenue tells you about the last quarter.

u/AggressiveAd9058 2· 2 天前

Thanks for your comment, I like your framing of how to read the PE ratio! That's a very interesting way to look at it. I'll share the milestones with you once I have them drafted out

u/LululemonFanboy 2· 2 天前

I have a big short on Nike. Very bearish on its growth (non existent) prospects

u/Bayareachocolatemilk 1· 1 天前

I could see a jump off followed by selloff to new lows. I think it’s a company that is slowly dying and I just don’t see anyone other than those shipping at discount stores who wear Nike anymore. It’s not a brand that can command a premium to the masses and it’s pretty hard to get that back.

u/Responsible_Topic449 1· 1 天前

$40 today, and analysts expect more downside ahead of its quarterly results on Tuesday.  Says it was expect to rise to 43.00? But with this market probably not

u/Will_Explode8 1· 2 天前

It’s gonna keep falling tbh this is still a falling knife rn

u/Rdw72777 1· 2 天前

Part of my problem with Nike is trying to figure out if they have no idea what they are doing to fix things or that they do know what they’re but still failing. And having those 2 options makes me know I don’t really have a need or want to invest.

u/Extra_Code_7556 0· 2 天前

28x for a turnaround where the best-case outcome is 'decline is slowing' is a tough sell, and the direct-to-consumer infrastructure writedown risk still feels underappreciated by the market. The 24-milestone framework is the right way to watch this, because the thesis breaks on execution details, not the headline revenue number.

u/CDCVOUCHERHUATAH -1· 2 天前

I don't understand why ppl in this sub love to go for falling knife... There is no moat regarding Nike when there are tons of company in china competing for prices in the same space.

u/Rukuba 5· 2 天前

should really read the post before criticizing it lol