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大轮动:资金正逃离AI套牢盘,摇摇晃晃地涌入减肥药

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资金正从AI股票轮动至医疗保健板块,特别是NVO和LLY等GLP-1减肥药。

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  • 随着AI资本开支回报率受到质疑,宏观资金正从AI/科技股轮动至防御性板块。
  • GLP-1市场正通过新的口服制剂不断扩张,吸引了大量新患者。
  • 减肥药领域具有强劲的基本面增长和市场主导地位。
看空要点
  • AI交易逻辑动摇,科技板块正经历连续下跌。
  • GLP-1公司面临未来指引中潜在的销售额下降风险。
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好了,各位,聚一聚。这周除了我的看跌期权到期归零外,还真发生点事儿。

情况是这样的:纳斯达克刚刚创下连续第五个下跌日。所谓的AI无限印钞漏洞交易开始摇摇欲坠。据传OpenAI正在考虑将IPO推迟到明年,突然间所有人都想起来——‘花5000亿美元买GPU,再慢慢想收入’这个计划可能根本行不通。芯片股被狠狠砸了一顿,苹果和微软也在自家的麻烦里自顾不暇,双双亏损。

那么聪明钱跑哪儿去了?防御性板块。而医疗保健尤其受到热捧,成为本周表现第二好的行业,等权重指数上涨,说明不再只是那七家巨无霸在撑盘了。这就是轮动发生前的样子,还没明显到让人一眼看穿。

登场:瘦身夏日身体联盟。 💊

诺和诺德(NVO) 是这里典型的困境价值股。股价此前被砸得体无完肤,仿佛欠了谁钱一样,从2024年高点已下跌约65%,3月因CagriSema临床数据不及预期及两次指引下调,最大回撤超过50%。但行情似乎正在转向:

• 口服版Wegovy将于7月6日在英国上市。这是欧洲首个获批的GLP-1减重口服药。

• 据报道,仅Chemist4U一家就有超过1万名排队等待名单,其中约75%的人从未使用过任何GLP-1药物。这可不是抢Lilly的客户,而是在把整个蛋糕做大。

• 欧盟五月已给出积极监管意见,欧盟委员会批准待定,德国、丹麦、英国将于6月7日陆续上市。已经开始了。

• 在获得英国批准后股价反弹约6%,周五收盘收红,而科技股则一片惨绿。

礼来(LLY) 依然是那个800磅的大猩猩,别搞错了。Mounjaro加Zepbound去年贡献了约360亿美元收入,礼来预计今年增长约28%,而诺和诺德却指引下滑。他们的口服药Foundayo因为是新分子/新品牌,推广速度较慢,而orforglipron则是未知数。如果你要的是优质成长股,选LLY;要是想搏一个被低估的反转彩票,那就投NVO。

空头逻辑(因为我不是全然脑残):诺和诺德自己对2026年的指引是销售额下降4%至12%。美国定价持续承压,礼来正在抢份额。分析师普遍持观望态度(比如5家买入、9家持有,0家卖出,也就是‘我们真不知道’)。口服药需求确实存在,但真正关键的指标是:人们能否坚持用到剂量爬坡完成。

催化剂:诺和诺德8月5日发布二季度财报。口服药留存率数据将决定它是起飞还是终结。

总结:AI泡沫正在漏气,资金转向防御,医疗板块受追捧,而GLP-1口服药大战正走向全球。NVO = 反转搏命赌局,LLY = 相对安全的稳妥选择。

持仓:两边都买了,因为我拒绝在刀尖上选边站。NFA,我吃蜡笔。 🖍️🐂

讨论 · 高赞评论15 条精选
u/Hungry-Ad3303 55· 1 天前高赞

No way bro used AI to make a post about money leaving AI

u/crazier_ed 22· 1 天前

"You are absolutely right"

u/Wonderful-Savings768 12· 1 天前

"This is an exceptionally sharp analysis"

u/quoala678 5· 1 天前

Llms are never wrong and Claude told me it’s safe to drink peroxide to cleanse my body

u/Lost_in_space424 39· 1 天前

AI slop. No convictions, paper hands, changes mind like they’re the front runner to an old Katy Perry song.

Puts? Worthless

Bear thesis? Liquidated

Long term outlook? “Just buy this pharmaceutical company bro I swear they’re gonna pass FDA trials.”

u/anyportinc 11· 1 天前

I finally pulled the trigger. After watching my tech portfolio get absolutely hammered while I sat there holding bags of "AI-integrated" garbage, I decided enough was enough. I spent the better part of the weekend drowning in clinical trial data and European supply chain projections, convinced that if I could just time the GLP-1 transition right, I could finally climb out of the hole. I was deep in the zone, spreadsheets open, running sensitivity analysis on the Q2 guidance until my eyes were burning.

Just as I was about to execute the trade, there was a knock at the door. I opened it to see this little old lady in a dusty coat. She started rambling about pharmaceutical patent expiration dates and global distribution bottlenecks in a way that sounded strangely informed. Intrigued, I invited her in to take a look at my due diligence, thinking maybe she actually knew something. She walked over, stared at my terminal for a long moment, then tilted her head and said, "I have the inside track on the Q2 earnings call, but it’s gonna cost you about tree fiddy."

I took a good hard look at her, squinting as she seemed to grow about 500 feet taller right there in my living room. It wasn’t a grandmother! it was that goddamn Loch Ness Monster! I yelled, "Dammit, Loch Ness Monster, get out of my house! I ain't givin' you no tree fiddy!"

u/IncomingAxofKindness 10· 1 天前

Your post? Yeah...

u/IncomingAxofKindness 9· 1 天前

Just put the fries in the bag my mouth

https://preview.redd.it/7axmiggb7s9h1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=e7824775d318764def583dc8d3409e686c88c1ed

u/Lost_in_space424 8· 1 天前

I quit drinking a month ago, my hands shake from 0DTEs now not liquor

u/Nosafune 5· 1 天前

Funny diamond hands dont shake they hold

u/Ruzinus 7· 1 天前

GLP-1 pricing is a race to the bottom.

u/Few-Improvement9978 8· 1 天前

Disagree.

The stuff coming out in 2028 is crazy shit. I’m on one now for alcohol reduction and it’s changed my life.

Not to mention. How stupid fit i am getting

u/Ruzinus 9· 1 天前

I'm glad that it's working out for you, but the reasons that the prices are falling do not indict the efficacy of the product.

u/Equal_Assistant2897 6· 1 天前

People would literally rather inject gray market peptides from China than pay these companies.

u/silent_fartface 7· 1 天前

Anything is better than moderate physical activity and making better food choices when insurance won't cover the drugs.