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r/nior/nio· u/BathroomGreen1860· 23d agoNews 68

wow we are in the red after beating earnings what’s going on?

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Author expresses confusion and frustration over NIO's stock dropping despite beating earnings.

Bull points
  • Company beat earnings expectations.
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  • Stock price is dropping despite positive earnings news.
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???? loss for words

Discussion · top comments15 selected
u/stChanceCramer 34· 23d ago

Not manipulated at all lol

u/Sparta_Rotterdam1888 29· 23d ago

Fucking usa

u/Ordinary_Front_1972 26· 23d ago

Institutional shorts want to shake out as many retail investors as possible. Their challenge in doing so is that the company is executing brilliantly and so their time is running out. I’m not worried about Nio in the slightest and I will likely add to my position.  The shorts are hoping some of us will just fold and scoop up our shares on the cheap.  Seriously folks, don’t fall for the negative narratives.  I just chuckle when I read their bs.  I’m not going anywhere and the pressure is on them to cover their shares; it’s not on us longs. We don’t have to do anything but wait 👍

u/beachsandwichen 22· 23d ago

Lose all hope in the stock market and the regulators not the stock itself

u/Zealousideal_Rise607 18· 23d ago

Manipulation at highest level

u/juflyingwild 9· 23d ago

Turn off stock lending across your brokerages.

If they won't do that, set a limit sell at a high number ($50+). Prevents your shares from being lent out.

Stock lending means market makers can sell shares they don't own (yours) creating downward press on the share price and they hope to buy it back for pennies on the dollar.

Noticed 75% of my shares have been lent out as of today, and just turned off the share lending option for NIO.

u/ComprehensiveCarob28 8· 23d ago

The Q1 results were way above my expectations. Margin gre despite considerabley less sales that Q4 due to seasonality. The y on y margin growth is huge to 19% from 10%.

Guidance of 110-115k with revenues potentially 5b usd. Potentially higher than Q4 with less deliveries.

A clear ramp gong into Q3 and Q4 due to seasonality and strong product launches.

7b Usd cash on hand with the cashburn argument appearing now dead in the water at this point. Break eve in the weakest quater after a profitable Q4. You can expect profits in Q2, Q3 and Q4. Likey with continued improvements in margin due to scaling.

Nio power will grow exponentially with sales. This reoccurring revenue stream will become profitable in 2027 at this rate.

Great report. The price to sales is about 0.65 which places Nio at the bankruptcy candidate and struggling to stay alive valuation. Not at the about to turn to profitability and scale stage.

Keep the faith. Blue skys will be coming. I see no option but for analyists to start raising price targets about the average concensus of $6.21

u/Hot_Dependent5404 6· 23d ago

It’s not untypical for stocks to go down following good earnings honestly it’s probably a lot more common than you think. It seems to be from a pre priced in increased stock price prior to earnings and once that’s met or beat profit taking starts price dips and then after 12-24 hours it starts going back up at a slower rate. So mid 6’s are for sure possible again in the next 3-4 days and hopefully 7’s by June. IMO manipulation or not it’s another profitable quarter it should continue to climb over time if the business stays profitable as good as it can did a Chinese stock.

u/ComprehensiveCarob28 8· 23d ago

It was down 15% in five days in the led up to earnings. The only profits to be taken would have been minimal from those who got in yesterday taking profits pre market.

I agree with your other points if I had to guess but we don't have a clue where the stocks going. Other than it's being sold of routinely at open each day by algos or big funds.

u/Modulus3360 6· 23d ago

A clear agenda is targeting Nio. Trying to destroy this company by destroying the share prices. The so called good earning and bad share movement u claim is becos , the next qtr or outlook will be bad. But not for nio. Future is bright and next qtr sales will only be better. There is no reason for such unusual movement. There is only one reason. Manipulation

u/SMCudmm 5· 23d ago

Not sure why you're getting downvoted - HKSE session was closed before the Q1 earnings were released.

u/Familiar-Citron2758 5· 23d ago

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u/1stworld_slave 4· 23d ago

Why does nobody talk about this clearly being a us vs china story… imagine they successfully establish a high stock price in US market while strong trump in office after all this big talk about us car manufacturers… imho this stock is being gatekeept until us & china figure out a deal where us can save face while letting china succeed in their yard.

u/SMCudmm 4· 23d ago

Nio has pretty substantial retail ownership, so institutions are trying to wrestle ownership from retail holders. Only explanation I can come to at this point.

u/Zealousideal_Rise607 4· 23d ago

Somenody sold lot of positions, but volume stalled after drop, recovery incoming