GOOGL
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Bull case
1 stances- Extremely cheap valuation with 1.5x EV/EBITDA, 3.6x P/E, and over 30% FCF yield. ↗
- Aggressive share buybacks, reducing share count by 47% since IPO and returning 50-100% of FCF. ↗
- Margin expansion due to shifting to direct billing, bypassing the 30% Apple/Google app store cut. ↗
- SK Hynix is a major beneficiary of the AI boom due to its dominant position in high-bandwidth memory chips for AI servers. ↗
- The company's stock has surged 230% this year, pushing its market cap above $1 trillion. ↗
- A Nasdaq listing could command higher valuations for tech/growth companies and broaden the global investor base. ↗
Bear case
2 stances- Similar to IBM, Google's quantum architecture requires extensive cryogenics for the whole system, making it less cost-effective for scaling into data centers. ↗
- Shrinking top-line revenue, down 5% in 2025 and 9% in Q1 2026. ↗
- High concentration risk as the business basically relies on only two games. ↗
- Potential value trap if the 'melting ice cube' business model eventually destroys cash flow. ↗
- Direct investment in Anthropic ties GOOGL to the AI supply chain ecosystem vulnerable to the ban. ↗
- Analysts may need to factor in policy costs, leading to slower optimistic revenue growth projections. ↗
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Bullish on XNDU's room-temp photonic quantum tech, citing scalability, lower cooling costs vs IBM/Google, and PennyLane software.
Analyzes Huuuge (HUG)'s low valuation and high FCF, asking if it's a value trap or a cash-return machine despite shrinking revenue.
Asks for a comparison or recommendation among GOOGL, AMZN, and NVDA without any supporting analysis.
Author warns a US AI supply chain ban could trap bullish sentiment, forcing analysts to lower revenue growth projections for tech giants.
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INTC is a massive bubble driven by political theater and unconfirmed Apple deals, with poor financials and inferior foundry yields vs TSMC.
INTC's rally is a delusional bubble driven by political theater with Apple, citing terrible financials and inability to replace TSMC.
Author argues INTC is a bubble driven by political pressure for an Apple deal, citing poor valuation and lost server share to AMD.
SK Hynix plans a U.S. listing on Nasdaq to capitalize on AI investor appetite, following a 230% stock surge this year.
Discussion on whether AI giants will engage in pricing wars, impacting margins, and if Chinese AI firms can compete.
Questions if major AI firms will collude on pricing, impact on margins, and whether Chinese AI can compete and lower prices.
Discussion on whether AI giants will secretly collude on pricing, and if capital influx and Chinese competition will crush margins.
Questions if major AI firms will collude on pricing, how IPO capital affects margins, and if Chinese AI can compete.
Analyzes Circus SE's potential to disrupt institutional catering by solving labor shortages and high costs in the food industry.
Author is bullish on MSFT, citing freed cloud capacity, Copilot rollout, and new AI enterprise deals to drive better upcoming earnings.
German court ruled Google liable for AI hallucinations, stripping search liability shields and posing regulatory risks for AI providers.
Author warns of a tech bubble and 'shoeshine boy moment' as SpaceX IPO targets retail investors amid soaring AI valuations.
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User asks why Google's stock is plummeting to $350, showing panic but providing no analysis.
SK hynix plans a US listing amid the AI boom, partnering with Nvidia and benefiting from massive hyperscaler AI capex.
Author questions Google's lack of leadership transparency and asks why MSFT is favored over GOOGL despite a 3-4 P/E premium.
AI compute costs often exceed human labor, creating a revenue ceiling for AI firms and questioning tech giants' massive capex bets.
The author is asking for investment advice on choosing between GOOGL, NVDA, and AMZN.
Author questions why Tesla hasn't surged despite Elon's hype and robot narrative, while holding GOOGL/JPM and regretting missing CAT.
Author argues market wrongly fears GOOGL's AI CapEx, citing expanding margins, strong cloud growth, and successful ad monetization.
Author argues SNAP is undervalued at ~1.5x revenue, citing massive user scale, strong engagement, and high-ARPU market presence.
Keel pivots to AI data centers with 2.2GW power and Leopold's backing; 3 upcoming leases could trigger a multi-bagger rerate.
Massive upcoming AI IPOs will either drain liquidity from existing stocks or fail due to lack of demand, both risking market downturns.
Author urges investors to oppose the SEC's proposal for semiannual financial reporting, claiming it will make investing harder.
Daily discussion thread for r/stocks focusing on options trading basics and helpful market news links.
Regulators approved Monday and Wednesday option expiration cycles for major tech names and IBIT, replacing XLF, starting late January.
User asks if $351 is the price floor for GOOGL assuming Buffett bought $10B of the stock.
Author questions Meta's stock drop despite strong ad revenue, social moat, and AI potential, while noting concerns over massive capex.
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AI-driven capex will fuel a K-shaped market rally, making traditional value investing obsolete while boosting tech stocks.
A trading novice asks for help on how to liquidate contract winnings into their account.
Author warns of an AI bubble resembling the dot-com era, arguing retail investors will ultimately pay for the AI infrastructure build-out.
New investor asks if they should add mega-cap tech stocks like GOOGL, NVDA, MSFT, AMZN, and AAPL for safer growth.
Author asks for entry points and targets to hold AMD, MSFT, and GOOGL forever, predicting AMD could reach a $2T market cap.
Data vet asks why CRM and SAP are undervalued vs skyrocketing cloud giants like MSFT and GOOGL, noting SNOW's lower adoption.
QCOM at $193 is a deep value play with a licensing toll booth, surging auto revenue, and buybacks, poised for Android AI upgrades.
Sarcastic post mocking bears by highlighting Google's massive cash, profits, and market dominance despite a $40 drop.
Holding NVDA and GOOGL at a loss, seeking advice on whether to hold, average down, or wait due to macro and rate fears.
NVDA and GOOGL holder fears macro headwinds and a potential bear market despite strong AI fundamentals, asking whether to hold or wait.
Author refuses to buy SpaceX IPO due to absurd 266x EBITDA valuation, massive cash burn from xAI merger, and declining Starlink ARPU.

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