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r/nior/nio· u/mvaditya91· 18d agoGeneral 25

Clarification regarding my recent post.

Investor summaryBullish

Author defends NIO's value and safety, heavily criticizing Tesla and Musk for false autonomous driving claims and poor labor practices.

Bull points
  • NIO produces better, affordable cars with superior safety sensor suites.
  • Chinese EV makers are strategically smart and use comprehensive sensors.
Bear points
  • Tesla's affordability relies on cutting essential safety sensors and exploiting workers.
  • Musk's autonomous driving claims are false, leading to fatal accidents and lawsuits.
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Guys, I recently made a post comparing how if a company like Tesla built on the lies of Elon Musk has much higher stock price. While cars like NIO and others which do not lie like him or abuse their workers like him should have higher stock price.

The only reason I did that is to show how, better, and affordable cars like NIO or other deserve better stock price rather than Elon Musk's company. Here is one of the proof's of what I am talking about.

To those saying I am wrong, ask yourself this:

1) If cutting sensors helps improve driverless cars. It is like saying you can make deterministic decisions while not being able to see beyond what the camera can. Which is what sensors like Radar, and Lidar do to make safety, and travel time judgments.

2) I am a Systems Engineer with some experience building robots. You can also believe Google Driverless car chief who said not using RADAR and LIDAR is a bad decision.

2) Affordability of Tesla: This is attained through cutting sensors and abusing workers safety. Proof below.

3) Chinese makers looking up to Elon: One of those replying to me, a tesla fan boy said "Chinese car makers look up to Elon". I ask, "Do you think people like NIOO founder truly look up to Elon who laughed at Chinese cars"? They are being smart while dealing with him is all that's happening.

4) Elon as been claiming Tesla can be driverless since 2017, yet has been settling cases with families of those who believed his lies and lost lives. Just like he claimed xAI is great and just sold out the data center to Anthropic, and tweeting it was not built right while begging for your $1.7 trillion.

5) The fact that he had to change the label from Auto Pilot to FSD and Supervised FSD should be a hint. It could also be how he wanted to force people to work during covid because he wanted tesla to produce cars while risking people's lives or his lawsuit settlements.

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Discussion · top comments15 selected
u/Gon3_F1shinG 8· 18d ago

Elon is shorting NIO

u/mvaditya91 1· 18d ago

haha

u/Modulus3360 0· 17d ago

Precisely, he has so much money. If USD10 billion can boast his ego out of so many hundred billion. Why not? Plus it's Nio that prove him wrong in giving up battery swap. Of cos he bear a grudge against Nio.

u/acomfysweater 3· 18d ago

elon musk is a little bitch

u/mvaditya91 1· 18d ago

Keeping my language. Elon is not just little. He is the richest and tiniest person.

u/mvaditya91 2· 18d ago

I guess you would say the same to his wife and kid both of whom call him out these days. You are like Andrew Tate fans whose sister also does not like him but people like you pander to that guy.

Also, about finding dirt. None of us did the Nazi salute, nor abused women, nor abused workers. You might win on the stock market. But we sleep well at night unlike the drug addict elon musk who is more online than any actually working CEO.

u/Zealousideal_Rise607 2· 18d ago

This NIO sub, no place for your idiocy and hate

u/Zealousideal_Rise607 1· 18d ago

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

u/Zealousideal_Rise607 1· 18d ago

You csn go suck.democrat p....

u/Zealousideal_Rise607 1· 18d ago

Your life has to be miserable

u/mvaditya91 2· 18d ago

Lol I did not say that.

u/OkWelcome8895 1· 17d ago

Tesla does better because it was the pioneer and Elon drives that- it has way more scale- more output- more innovation- and better batteries- don’t just look at the cars but at what it has done with batteries for whole communities- star link- space ex- reusable rockets-robots-while nio does what- nio phone? You can not like him because of personality but when it comes to margin - managing a company- and driving innovation for what people want- he is clearly leading - Tesla is not built on lies- it’s built on strategic choices- that said I still think Tesla is way over valued and will come down in price- but the facts are Tesla is valued higher because if it’s scale - in production- in innovation- in markets it can reach- and in its business acumen-

u/BakedFish07 1· 18d ago

Sounds like you're just mad over the fact that Elon is way more successful than you can ever be lol

u/Modulus3360 0· 17d ago

They never. They are very good to their workforce. Only Tesla do that.

u/mvaditya91 0· 17d ago

Tesla FSD is a Fraud