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r/investingr/investing· u/website-buyer· 6d ago 20

What happens if you adjust the stock market for ALL the money printed by the Top 10 economies?

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Analysis adjusts global stock market returns against M2 money supply growth of top 10 economies to isolate real vs. inflationary gains.

Bear points
  • Equity market gains may be largely nominal, driven by monetary expansion rather than fundamental productivity improvements.
  • Global liquidity saturation suggests limited real upside for assets when adjusted for currency debasement.
降息与宏观
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We all know the stock market has been on an absolute tear over the last two decades. But how much of that is actual, productive company growth, and how much is just central banks firing up the money printers worldwide?

If we treat the total expansion of the global money supply as our baseline for "zero percent growth," the real returns of our portfolios look entirely different.

Instead of just looking at the US and Europe, let's look at the top 10 economies. Because the stock market is a global sponge, capital crosses borders constantly to find a home in equities. Here is the raw, step-by-step conversion of native currencies into USD using the historical exchange rates from 2006 vs. 2026.

STEP 1: BROAD MONEY SUPPLY CONVERTED TO USD (2006 vs 2026)

1) United States (USD)

2006: $6.85 Trillion

2026: $22.80 Trillion

2) China (CNY)

2006: 34.0T CNY at 8.00 USD/CNY = $4.25 Trillion

2026: 353.0T CNY at 7.25 USD/CNY = $48.69 Trillion

3) Eurozone (EUR)

2006: 6.63T EUR at 1.25 EUR/USD = $8.29 Trillion

2026: 16.29T EUR at 1.08 EUR/USD = $17.59 Trillion

4) Japan (JPY)

2006: 715.0T JPY at 115 USD/JPY = $6.22 Trillion

2026: 1250.0T JPY at 150 USD/JPY = $8.33 Trillion

5) United Kingdom (GBP)

2006: 1.30T GBP at 1.85 GBP/USD = $2.41 Trillion

2026: 3.00T GBP at 1.27 GBP/USD = $3.81 Trillion

6) South Korea (KRW)

2006: 1100.0T KRW at 950 USD/KRW = $1.16 Trillion

2026: 3900.0T KRW at 1350 USD/KRW = $2.89 Trillion

7) India (INR)

2006: 23.0T INR at 45.0 USD/INR = $0.51 Trillion

2026: 233.0T INR at 83.0 USD/INR = $2.81 Trillion

8) Canada (CAD)

2006: 0.75T CAD at 1.11 USD/CAD = $0.68 Trillion

2026: 2.50T CAD at 1.36 USD/CAD = $1.84 Trillion

9) Australia (AUD)

2006: 0.80T AUD at 0.74 AUD/USD = $0.59 Trillion

2026: 2.90T AUD at 0.66 AUD/USD = $1.91 Trillion

10) Brazil (BRL)

2006: 0.70T BRL at 2.20 USD/BRL = $0.32 Trillion

2026: 6.00T BRL at 5.00 USD/BRL = $1.20 Trillion

STEP 2: THE COMBINED GLOBAL MONEY MULTIPLIER

When you add everything up:

Total Top 10 Money Supply (2006): $31.28 Trillion

Total Top 10 Money Supply (2026): $111.87 Trillion

The total fiat currency supply of the world's major economies expanded by 3.58x over the last 20 years.

STEP 3: ADJUSTING THE STOCK MARKETS

Let's assume this 3.58x expansion represents a 0% baseline growth rate (meaning assets must increase 3.58x just to keep up with the dilution of paper money).

The US Market (S&P 500)

Nominal Growth: Went from 1,270 to 7,384 points (A 5.81x nominal increase, or +481%).

Adjusted Growth: 5.81x divided by 3.58x = 1.62x.

Real 20-Year Return: +62.3%

Real Annualized Growth Rate: \~2.46% per year

The Whole World Market (MSCI ACWI / VWRA)

If we look at a globally diversified basket of thousands of companies across developed and emerging markets, the trend is even clearer.

Nominal Growth: A 5.46x nominal increase (+446%).

Adjusted Growth: 5.46x divided by 3.58x = 1.52x.

Real 20-Year Return: +52.5%

Real Annualized Growth Rate: \~2.13% per year

THE CAVEAT

To be entirely fair, this isn't a scientifically perfect economic model. Treating global money printing as immediate asset inflation skips over the fact that inflation has a heavy time delay. Money velocity matters, and capital doesn't flow smoothly or evenly into every single asset class at the exact same moment.

However, as a perspective shift, it is eye-opening. While corporate innovation did create real, productive value over the last two decades (yielding us a modest \~2% true annualized return), the vast majority of your portfolio's massive growth wasn't an economic miracle. It was simply the global financial system flooding the world with currency, and that currency using equities as a safe haven to protect its purchasing power from being eroded.

Discussion · top comments15 selected
u/Dalewyn 4· 6d ago

Once you get your toes wet investing, it really doesn't take much to realize most of the market growth is just plain old inflation. The only difference between you the investor and the guy buying groceries at the supermarket is you hold assets while the guy holds cash.

"VOO and Chill" is basically about putting yourself on the right side of inflation. If you hold assets, your net worth keeps pace with inflation. If you hold cash, inflation throws you to the wolves.

u/allochthonous_debris 2· 5d ago

This really isn't true. Inflation has historically accounted for around a third of stock returns.

u/livingbkk 3· 6d ago

You should compare vs. inflation, not vs. money supply. Money supply doesn't matter the way you think it does.

Over the last 20 years, the S&P 500 has grown at about 10.8% per year nominally, and 8.1% real (inflation adjusted).

You should think that your stocks grew 8.1% per year in terms of purchasing power.

Historically, equities in the US deliver 7-7.5% after adjusting for inflation. Of course, who knows what they will do in the future.

u/SLR_ZA 3· 6d ago

That's a bit of a silly analysis. Thanks AI

u/livingbkk 2· 6d ago

AI can also easily find the fallacies in the original post. I wrote a (non-AI) reply to the original post, but below is what ChatGPT has to say about this analysis. It's a pretty good takedown of the bad assumptions made in the post.

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There are several serious conceptual and methodological problems in this analysis. Some are subtle; some are fundamental enough that they largely invalidate the conclusion.

1. Treating money supply growth as a "0% growth baseline" is not economically justified

This is the biggest flaw.

The analysis assumes:

That isn't how money creation works.

Money supply can grow because:

  • Real economic output grows
  • Population grows
  • Financial intermediation expands
  • People hold larger cash balances
  • Banking systems deepen
  • Velocity of money changes

The equation often cited is:

MV=PQMV = PQMV=PQ

where:

  • M = money supply
  • V = velocity
  • P = price level
  • Q = real output

If M rises 3.58× while real output (Q) also rises substantially and velocity falls, prices and asset values do not need to rise 3.58×.

The analysis implicitly assumes:

  • velocity is constant,
  • output growth is irrelevant,
  • all money creation dilutes existing money proportionally.

None of those assumptions are true.

2. It confuses monetary inflation with ownership dilution

When a company issues new shares, existing shareholders are diluted.

When a central bank expands the money supply, shareholders are not diluted in the same sense.

If a company owned:

  • 10% of world productive assets in 2006

and still owns:

  • 10% of world productive assets in 2026

then shareholders still own the same claim on productive capital.

Money supply growth changes the unit of account; it does not necessarily reduce ownership of productive assets.

The analysis borrows the intuition of dilution but applies it where it doesn't fit.

3. Using broad money aggregates from different countries and adding them together is questionable

The analysis literally sums:

  • US M2
  • Chinese broad money
  • Eurozone money
  • Japanese money
  • etc.

into one giant USD figure.

This creates several problems:

Different definitions

"Broad money" is not measured identically across countries.

China's M2 is not directly comparable to US M2.

Japanese measures differ.

Eurozone measures differ.

Adding them assumes they are equivalent.

They are not.

Domestic money is not global money

A yuan deposited in a Chinese bank is not equivalent to a dollar circulating globally.

Many monetary aggregates are largely trapped within domestic banking systems.

The analysis assumes all money competes equally for global equities.

That is not true.

4. Exchange-rate conversion creates distortions

The analysis converts every country's money supply into USD using spot exchange rates.

This introduces unrelated currency effects.

For example:

Japan:

  • 2006: 115 JPY/USD
  • 2026: 150 JPY/USD

The yen weakened dramatically.

Using USD conversion makes Japanese money growth appear much smaller.

But Japanese investors transact primarily in yen.

The change in exchange rate tells us little about the amount of domestic liquidity available to buy Japanese assets.

The same issue affects:

  • China
  • India
  • Brazil
  • South Korea

and others.

5. Stock prices should be compared to corporate fundamentals, not money supply

If you want to know how much stock appreciation comes from real business performance, look at:

  • earnings growth
  • cash flow growth
  • dividends
  • book value growth
  • return on invested capital

For example, the S&P 500's aggregate earnings today are dramatically higher than in 2006.

A large part of stock appreciation reflects:

  • higher profits
  • productivity gains
  • globalization
  • technology improvements

not merely monetary expansion.

The analysis largely ignores fundamentals.

6. It ignores dividends

The S&P figures use index levels.

But investors receive dividends.

A proper comparison would use:

  • S&P 500 Total Return Index

not the price index.

Ignoring dividends understates actual shareholder returns.

The same issue affects the global index comparison.

7. The causation claim is unsupported

The argument moves from:

to

This is a classic correlation-versus-causation problem.

Many things increased between 2006 and 2026:

  • global GDP
  • corporate earnings
  • technology adoption
  • productivity
  • population
  • wealth

To show causation, you'd need evidence that stock returns were primarily explained by monetary expansion rather than these factors.

The analysis doesn't provide that evidence.

8. The "safe haven" claim is backwards in places

The author suggests equities rose because investors were escaping currency debasement.

Sometimes that's true.

But stocks are ultimately claims on productive businesses.

If nominal GDP doubles and corporate profits double, stock prices should rise even without any "flight from cash."

Equities aren't merely inflation hedges.

They are ownership stakes in productive enterprises.

9. The conclusion is inconsistent with valuation history

If most gains were purely monetary, you'd expect valuation multiples to have exploded.

But much of the long-run rise in the S&P came from:

  • earnings growth
  • buybacks
  • dividends

Valuation multiples expanded at some periods and contracted at others.

The data do not support a simple story that "almost all gains are money printing."

10. The final 2% "real return" estimate has no economic meaning

The analysis concludes:

But this is not a recognized measure of real return.

Normally economists adjust returns using:

  • CPI inflation
  • PCE inflation
  • GDP deflator
  • consumption baskets

They do not adjust returns by worldwide money-supply growth.

So the resulting "2%" figure isn't measuring purchasing power, wealth creation, or investment performance in any standard sense.

It's simply:

which is an invented metric whose interpretation is unclear.

What the analysis gets right

Not everything is wrong.

There are two valid insights:

  1. Monetary policy probably contributed to higher asset prices. Low interest rates and quantitative easing likely boosted equity valuations, especially after 2008 and 2020.
  2. Nominal returns overstate real wealth creation. A 500% gain in an asset does not mean society became 500% richer. Some portion reflects inflation and monetary expansion.

Those are reasonable points.

The leap occurs when the author concludes that because money supply grew 3.58×, almost all stock gains should be attributed to money printing. The analysis does not demonstrate that. It assumes it at the outset, which makes the argument largely circular.

u/MSFusionHV 3· 6d ago

Nobody needs to know this. Stick to a low cost global equity index fund and ignore the noise.

u/livingbkk 2· 6d ago

No, that's what you're missing. You can actually have a lot of money printing that doesn't drive equity prices (or inflation) higher.

Economic activity can create a need for more money. Population growth is an example of this. Imagine doubling the population without doubling the money supply. You would have massive deflation.

Has money printing been a contributor to increased asset prices? Absolutely, but nowhere near what your analysis suggests.

u/Timbo1994 2· 6d ago

It shouldn't matter to an individual how much the money supply grows by, except to the extent it hits consumer price inflation and house price inflation.

Which it does, but not to the extent in your post.

u/_3470 2· 6d ago

finding out that stocks grow because of inflation is like discovering things fall down because of gravity. sure you discovered the secret of the stock market, now what can you do besides buy more stocks/assets? any cash you hold will just become more diluted if you believe everything you wrote

u/AerospaceTrader 1· 5d ago

Dip our hands in and extract some returns out of it is all i can say

u/website-buyer 1· 5d ago

Can’t time the market.

u/tang-tw 1· 6d ago

I focus solely on investing in the US; I don't care much about other countries, especially China.

u/tang-tw 1· 6d ago

Seeing the Renminbi, I would choose to withdraw my investment, I don't invest my money in authoritarian countries.

u/LiquidityCompass 1· 6d ago

The post is wrong as a valuation model, but probably right about one thing: liquidity has contributed far more to asset prices than most investors realize.

u/Appropriate-Net1899 1· 6d ago

You should always think in the terms of your own life expenses. How many months or years of your standard life can you finance from your current investment portfolio.

If more and more, your wealth is growing.