The Paradox of Bitcoin Valuation: What Are You Actually Buying?
Author argues Bitcoin lacks intrinsic value, comparing it to stocks and fiat, concluding its price is merely an arbitrary abstraction.
- Bitcoin is merely an arbitrary number created by an unknown programmer, lacking any underlying resource or future economic benefit.
- Unlike stocks, fiat, or redeemable tokens, Bitcoin has no collateral, liquidation value, or redemption mechanism to anchor its price.
If you were to ask any Bitcoin buyer why they paid $80,000 for a single Bitcoin, the answer would almost always be the same: the market determines the value.
But that answer is circular. The market is not some abstract force or a law of nature. The market is made up of people, and that very buyer is part of it. Therefore, the question actually boils down to something much simpler: what exactly were you determining to conclude that it was worth paying $80,000?
Of course, there would be no answer because what they actually bought is a 21-millionth part of a number that an unknown programmer simply made up. Since a number is an abstraction, not a resource providing future economic benefit, there is nothing to determine.
This becomes clear when we look at how value is determined in other cases, and how we know whether a market price is too high or too low.
If someone tried to sell you a share for $1,000, and that share only entitled you to $10 worth of assets in the event of liquidation while generating an annual profit of one dollar per share, you would know immediately that the price is unrealistic.
With money like the dollar or the euro, which is created through lending, you can determine value by the collateral behind it. No one can obtain a loan without an asset or a business project serving as security for repayment. If someone asked for your house in exchange for an amount of money that a bank created using a motorcycle as collateral, you would reject the offer. The reason is simple: the borrower can lose no more than the motorcycle itself. To repay the loan, they will provide goods, services, or labour to the market roughly proportional to the value of that motorcycle, not the value of a house.
With tokens like PayPal’s electronic money or casino chips, you determine the value by the possibility of redemption. For one unit of such a token, the issuer will pay you one dollar or one euro, so there is no reason to pay more than that on the market.
The same applies to physical or digital products. When we determine whether a price is reasonable, we look at the product's function.
If someone asked you for $80,000 for a pound of wheat, you would reject them immediately. Not because you know some "true" price of wheat, but because you can get the same nutritional value for a few dollars by buying other food. If Microsoft asked $20,000 for its operating system, most buyers would reject that price because computers can also be run by free operating systems like Linux.
In all these cases, there are concrete resources whose future effects we can determine to establish whether the market price is too high or not.
With Bitcoin, none of that exists. There is no corporate capital, no debt, no obligation of redemption, and no product with a function.
There is only a computer system by an unknown programmer that displays parts of the number 21 million to users and stores those records using a peer-to-peer network.
Because of this, Bitcoin buyers cannot look at the future effects of a resource to determine whether the market price is too high or too low. Buying comes down to a simple principle: pay and hope that someone else will pay more.
In this sense, the "Bitcoin market" is not actually a market, but a kind of participation-based scheme. In actual markets, prices are formed around determinations of a resource's future effects. With Bitcoin, however, there is only the hope that a new participant will pay more. In other words, it is a scheme whose sustainability depends on the continuous participation of new buyers, rather than on the economic effects of a resource.
In the end, when you pay $80,000 for Bitcoin, you haven't bought the future of finance, but the right to participate in a waiting game. The market does not determine Bitcoin's value; it merely measures the amount of hope that someone will appear who is willing to pay even more for a piece of a number from someone's imagination.
It’s just speculators and criminals ….
Bro, just say it's a Ponzi scheme and skip the fluff.
The market absolutely determines the value of anything.
Goods, services, real estate, gold, tulips, and Bitcoin.
it's true, but it's a useless truism. The question is always why the market reaches its evaluation, based on what.
Price = Perceived Value = Demand and Supply
For securities = Profit + Promise of Future Profit
I mostly stick to value investing and avoid crypto currency, but good luck!
You are buying an asset for $60k today that you know costs $60k to produce. You also know that mathematically it will cost $120k - $140k to produce in 2 years
Then why does the cost/ value vary so much in-between and not steadily rising (of course depending on the timeframe of consideration)? Because the cost of mining is directly related to the cost of computing power and electricity cost? Wouldn't that make Bitcoin just a proxy for those two markets?
This is me asking these questions honestly so I can learn. I do not claim to know that much about it, which is why I ask and which is why I largely keep my hands off this stuff.
The compute required to mine a Bitcoin will double because of the halving. Actually a better way to say it is you will get half the reward for the same compute. This is programmed in Bitcoin since it's genesis. The halving happens every 4 years.
The next halving is about April 2028.
I'm sorry but that doesn't really track. Practically all costs are going up constantly, especially the last few years and BitCoins are supposedly this extremely controlled currency.
How, then, does it drop by tens of thousands of dollars one month and surge by even more than that the next month if it's supposed to be anchored to reality. The only thing it can be anchored to is hardware and electricity cost because those are the components you need for mining.
It's like OP says, hype can have way too much of an effect on this "currency". So much so that you really start to wonder if there is anything real behind it.
PS: I didn't make the egg comment that you disliked, no reason to add it here so snarkily.
I've explained exactly how Bitcoin mining mechanics work. Regardless if it tracks for you or not, it has tracked for 15 years. The mining cost has always acted as a floor for Bitcoin dollar price in bear markets.
Bitcoin fluctuates, like all other assets based on sentiment and pricing in / out the rest of its properties (scarcity, security, decintralization, lack of central authority and many others).
It's one of the most hated assets on the planet, and in combination with how early we are in adoption (think of something lile dial up modem era) , it creates vast volatility.
If you keep tracking the floor which is very close to production cost instead of the pumps you will be fine.
The OP made zero sense with the typical narrative that "bitcoin is air" with nothing backing it and all that, a point of view generated from ignorance. So my reply was warranted. Same with all the standard bitcoin narratives recycled every year. All from a point of ignorance.
Okay now yap about gold.
Commoditites can trade at far less than their cost to create.
Look at eggs. US wholesale is $0.23/dozen when breakeven for layer operations is around a $1.
And every egg has infinitely more intrinsic value than any crypto currency.
Only a superior intellect would compare Bitcoin to eggs, so I am quite outclassed here.
Eggsactly
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Just say you didn’t read the whitepaper/ don’t know what it is and move on man. You’ll get Bitcoin at the price you deserve.
Value is subjective.
That’s a really insightful rebuttal to a very thorough set of analogies. You just proved their point.
You think this AI slop is a “very thorough set of analogies”? Lol
My comment is on par for the nonsense that is this post. I don’t waste my time explaining Bitcoin anymore, you’ll get it at the price you deserve.
The basic math is...if banks want a stake in btc as a hedge against its success and allocate 1% of their money to it...btc goes to 1 million
Aaaaand redditors are still arguing with LLMs 😂

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