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r/wallstreetbetsr/wallstreetbets· u/natelifts· 3d agoDD 0

DD: Why Beaten-Down Booze Stocks Could Be the Next Oil-Style Recovery Trade

Investor summaryBullish

Alcohol stocks (SAM, BF.B, DEO) offer deep value as market overestimates GLP-1 and Gen Z headwinds.

Bull points
  • Market overestimates GLP-1's long-term impact on drinking due to high costs and side effects.
  • Gen Z's lower alcohol intake is offset by other vices and missed pandemic socialization.
  • The sector offers deep value after being crushed by temporary headwinds.
Bear points
  • GLP-1 drugs are a legitimate headwind that reduces alcohol cravings.
  • Gen Z is drinking less than previous generations.
  • COVID created a boom in craft beer leading to excess inventory.
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Positions:

SAM — 175 shares (low 6m float, 23% short, will re-rate violently when it does)

BF.B — 1,000 shares

DEO — 325 shares

I think alcohol stocks offer some of the best deep value in the market right now.

The sector has been crushed because investors believe: (1) GLP-1 drugs will permanently reduce drinking, (2) Gen Z drinks less than previous generations & (3) COVID created too many breweries, spirits brands, canned cocktails, and too much inventory.

Here’s why those headwinds are probably short term and the market has misplaced booze stocks.

GLP-1s

GLP-1 drugs appear to reduce alcohol cravings in some users, but the bear case assumes widespread access and lifelong adherence. In reality, people stop taking medications because of cost, side effects, insurance changes, or because they miss eating and drinking normally. Also....

Coverage is also becoming more restrictive.

Medicaid enrollment has also fallen after pandemic-era coverage protections ended.

GLP-1s are a legitimate headwind, but “some users drink less” is not the same as “the alcohol industry is permanently dead.”

Younger Generations

Gen Z drinks less, but that does not mean they are vice-free or uniquely healthy. Cannabis and harder-drug use have increased among younger adults.)

Gen Z also lost some of its prime college and early-adult social years to COVID. Instead of bars, parties, concerts, and dating, many spent those years isolated, smoking weed, gaming, and socializing online. That experience will not necessarily repeat with future generations (unless another black swan pandemic happens).

Market Saturation and Inventory

COVID created a boom in craft beer, whiskey, tequila, hard seltzers, and canned cocktails. Companies expanded production as if the demand surge would last forever. It did not. Demand normalized, inventories piled up, and weaker brands started failing.

But that is how every boom-bust cycle works. Too much capital enters an industry. Supply exceeds demand. Margins collapse. Weak competitors disappear. Production is cut. Inventories clear. The survivors regain pricing power. Alcohol is already moving through that process. Smaller breweries are closing. Distributors are reducing the number of brands they carry. Companies are cutting production and focusing on their strongest products.

Every failed competitor means:

  • Less supply.
  • Less discounting.
  • Fewer brands fighting for shelf space.
  • More market share for established companies.

The major alcohol companies do not need demand to boom again. They only need inventories to normalize and the competitive field to shrink. That is similar to what happened with oil after 2020. The recovery did not require infinite demand growth. It required supply discipline, bankruptcies, reduced investment, and better capital allocation.

The Thesis

The market is pricing alcohol companies as though demand will decline forever, GLP-1 use will become universal, Gen Z behavior will never change, and excess inventory will never clear. I think that is too pessimistic. These companies still own globally recognized brands, entrenched distribution networks, limited shelf space, and products consumers have purchased for decades.

The current oversupply is painful, but it is also forcing the industry to consolidate. My bet is that alcohol demand eventually stabilizes, inventories normalize, weaker competitors disappear, and the surviving companies rerate.

The sector does not need another COVID boom. It just needs to be less bad than the market currently expects.

Discussion · top comments18 selected
u/AlGAdams 9· 3d ago

I think WSB should lead the way on driving demand in this beat up sector in these troubling times.  Come on guys.

u/Liesmyteachertoldme 3· 3d ago

A lot of people here quit alcohol and developed a gambling addiction in its place already, WSB might actually be part of the problem …

u/Upstairs_System_6257 1· 3d ago

I'm driving it up right now after last 2 months as a bear

u/Nerevarine123 4· 3d ago

Alcohol is getting destroyed by mary jane, id be nervous to invest in it. Times are changing

u/donktastic 1· 3d ago

Absolutely, people need a vice and will opt for the safer one more often. Weed also kills alcohol desire, when I don't smoke then I start craving a drink on occasion, when I'm ripped alcohol just sounds gross.

u/natelifts 1· 3d ago

People thought the same with tobacco and vapes, and really what happened was big tobacco started also making vapes. look at phillips morris stock, its hardly dead.

u/mhoepfin 1· 3d ago

The farm bill loophole was closed. Most of the retail hemp derived cbd will be gone in November.

u/quoala678 3· 3d ago

This is actually a good idea.. consuming alcohol does go up when there care economic woes.. but don’t forget msos

u/FriedRice2682 2· 3d ago
GLP-1 drugs appear to reduce alcohol cravings in some users, but the bear case assumes widespread access and lifelong adherence. In reality, people stop taking medications because of cost, side effects, insurance changes, or because they miss eating and drinking normally.

I'll just say that former fatties are getting out more, therefore drinking more. My Insta feed has been overflowed by 2000's bathroom selfies.

u/Big_Barber1070 1· 3d ago

The alcohol industry is a unique case (especially with aged spirits like whisky) in that production began a while ago and the products need to age for five plus years. So distilleries overproduced new whisky casks, etc several years ago and thus are seeing excess supply now.

u/VastNebula283 1· 3d ago

Alcohol is almost entirely out of fashion with the younger generations and with people being more health conscious than ever, it’s just not looking like a rebound is coming. The distribution is broken as well. Kids aren’t going out and the restaurant industry has been hammered by delivery companies that keep customers at home. Not to mention marijuana use is only sky rocketing. You’d need massive societal changes for this to reverse and that happens in decades not years.

u/Sufficient-Aide6805 1· 3d ago

Nah, tobacco stocks.

u/GeorgeTMorgan 1· 3d ago

People like weed better, especially now that it is legal in most states.

u/InevitableAd2436 1· 3d ago

Doubt that.

It’s not just Gen Z. About 50% of adults drink now vs 75% in the early 2000’s.

The demand destruction might not even be fully valued. Booze companies are just value traps at this point.

u/ponziacs 1· 3d ago

How heavy are your bags? You didn’t put your cost average.

u/natelifts 1· 3d ago

i'm actually up on all my positions, i'll put the cost average in now

u/HugeDramatic 1· 3d ago

My thesis is that cannabis consumption will increase and eventually cannabis companies and alcohol companies will start aggressive M&A. Alcohol consumption continues to trend down as prices increase. Fewer young people can afford $20 cocktails and the generation who buys 24 packs to drink on a weekend are dying off.

Green Thumb previously made an offer to buy SAM. It’s just a matter of time until we see more hostile approaches to M&A once cannabis companies shift to the main trading boards.

Alcohol companies wont ‘re-rate’ on their own and they need a catalyst.

u/natelifts 1· 3d ago

Bro i just gave you a whole post on why the headwinds are probably temporary. that is a "catalyst" in of itself