AI bubble red flags are here, and retails are going to end up paying for the infrastructure build out
Author warns of an AI bubble resembling the dot-com era, arguing retail investors will ultimately pay for the AI infrastructure build-out.
- AI bubble is showing red flags similar to the late 1990s dot-com bubble.
- Recent moves in related tech stocks signal the AI hype is approaching a breaking point.
- Retail investors will ultimately be left paying the bill for the massive AI infrastructure build-out.
Hello Fellow Apes,
This post is a follow up to the post I made about 8 months ago.
For those who are curious, my investments in Molina and Clover performed very well. Centene, however, never dropped to the price level I was targeting, so I chose not to buy any shares.
That said, the main purpose of this post is not to revisit those individual investment decisions. Instead, I want to return to the broader topic of what I see as an impending AI bubble, especially in light of the recent moves involving Micro, Micron, and SoftBank. In my view, these developments may represent one of the first meaningful signals that the AI bubble is beginning to approach its breaking point.
I also want to be clear about the scope of this discussion. I will not be focusing on oil shocks, debt levels, interest rates, geopolitical risks, or other macroeconomic events. Those factors are important, but they are outside the focus of this post.
This post is specifically about the AI bubble and how it may compare to the dot-com bubble. My goal is to examine the similarities, the warning signs, and whether the current enthusiasm surrounding AI is beginning to resemble the speculative excesses we saw during the late 1990s.
To better understand this, we need to examine the cash conversion cycle and the recent events.
What is a cash conversion cycle? The cash conversion cycle is how long a company’s cash gets tied up between paying suppliers and collecting cash from customers. In simple terms
How many days does it take to turn cash → inventory/products → sales → cash again?
for the accounting people out there
Cash Conversion Cycle = Inventory Days + Receivables Days - Payables Days
Inventory days = how long inventory sits before being sold.
Receivables days = how long customers take to pay after the sale.
Payables days = how long the company can wait before paying suppliers.
Now we juxtapose that with recent events.
- Super Micro stock plunges as $7 billion equity raise overshadows booming backlog https://www.marketwatch.com/story/super-micro-stock-plunges-as-7-billion-equity-raise-overshadows-booming-backlog-c5df2fc8
- SoftBank Attempt to Get $6 Billion OpenAI Margin Loan Stalls https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/softbank-attempt-6-billion-openai-042525869.html
- Is Micron Quietly Preparing for the Collapse in AI Demand? https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/micron-quietly-preparing-collapse-ai-130225317.html
The AI trade appears to be shifting from “scarce chips print money” to “who can fund the supply chain and survive the cash conversion cycle?”
That distinction matters. Going back to the cash conversion cycle, some of these companies look like they are trying to jump from the order phase straight back into the cash phase, before the actual cash from sales has fully materialized. In other words, demand may be real, but the cash is not necessarily there yet. This raises an obvious question: if these companies are making so much money, why do they suddenly need more liquidity while their stocks are booming?
When a company says, “Demand is enormous, orders are booming, AI servers are selling like crazy,” but then also says, “We need billions in new liquidity right now,” the market should be asking: Are you actually generating cash, or are you just moving a massive amount of expensive hardware through the system? That is the part I think many people are overlooking.
The issue is not necessarily that these companies lack revenue. The issue is that they can be revenue-rich but cash-poor. A business can show strong revenue growth and even positive accounting profits while still bleeding cash. That is especially true in hardware. For AI infrastructure suppliers, cash leaves the business early. GPUs, memory, networking equipment, power and cooling systems, racks, and other components all have to be purchased before the customer fully pays. If gross margins are only in the single digits or low double digits, then a $1 billion server order may not actually generate that much profit after component costs, logistics, warranties, credit risk, financing costs, and overhead.
This is why hypergrowth in hardware can be dangerous. The faster these companies grow, the more inventory they need. The more inventory they need, the more cash they consume. Growth itself can create the cash crunch. The scary part is that raising equity while the stock is hot is rational. It may simply be opportunistic. But it also tells you that management believes now is the window. If the business were effortlessly printing cash, it probably would not need emergency-looking liquidity while the stock market is booming.
And importantly, backlog is not cash. Orders are not cash. Announced demand is not cash. A backlog can look impressive, but suppliers still need to be paid in real money, not future revenue. This is why the current AI infrastructure cycle rhymes with the dot-com bubble. The analogy is not perfect, but it is there: huge capex promises, aggressive financing, narrative-driven valuations, circular demand (the good old circle-jerk memes we have been seeing), and companies leaning on capital markets because the AI buildout is outpacing organic cash generation. That last part should be a major red flag: companies are leaning on capital markets because the AI buildout is moving faster than the cash generation underneath it.
Let's not forget that back orders can be canceled. "How Oracle’s Canceled Nvidia Server Order At Supermicro (SMCI) Has Changed Its AI Infrastructure Investment Story" https://finance.yahoo.com/sectors/technology/articles/oracle-canceled-nvidia-server-order-180557762.html Oracle reportedly canceled 300–400 Nvidia-based server racks from Super Micro, worth an estimated $1.05B–$1.40B. We're just going to ignore things like this?Are we
Some people will argue that this is different from the dot-com bubble because many dot-com companies had little revenue, weak products, or no real business model. That is true. This AI cycle has real revenue, real demand, and very profitable buyers like Microsoft, Amazon, Google, Meta, and Oracle.
But that does not eliminate the risk. It changes the nature of the risk.
The problem is not that AI demand is fake. The problem is that the balance sheet is being forced to front-run that demand. Customers are ordering enormous amounts of AI infrastructure, so suppliers like Super Micro Computer need to stock inventory, secure components, and extend working capital before the cash comes back in. If those orders quickly convert into high-margin cash, then dilution and financing look survivable. But if margins stay thin, customers delay orders, component prices move against them, inventories build up, or financing windows tighten, then these liquidity raises start looking less like opportunism and more like stress signals.
The bubble probably starts to crack when the market shifts from asking, “How much AI demand is there?” to asking, “How much cash are you actually making from AI sales?” That is the question that matters. Not bookings. Not backlog. Not hype. Actual cash generation from actual AI sales.
My speculation is that these questions will start becoming louder sometime between September and December. Right now, the recent news feels like confirmation that things are not going as smoothly as the headline demand story suggests. These companies appear to be preparing for a tougher phase of the cycle.
The three cases look different, but they point to the same broader issue:
- Super Micro Computer: “Orders are huge, but we need cash now to buy the components required to fulfill them.”
- Micron: “AI memory demand is huge right now, but memory is historically boom-and-bust. What happens if supply catches up or AI demand slows?”
- SoftBank: “We are already extremely deep into OpenAI and the broader AI trade, so we have to keep financing the bet.”
Taken together, this does not mean AI is fake. It means the AI infrastructure trade may be entering the phase where the market stops rewarding the story alone and starts asking whether the cash flows can support the scale of the buildout.
Is using AI to help write these posts completely lost on the authors?
If only AI could get the information to go in my brain 😂
They aren’t spending trillions on LLM’s dude
That distinction matters.
Yup; dead giveaway
Inverse Reddit again????
Yes honey
"I didn't invest in these stocks and missed the boat. Therefore this rocket isn't real and it's going to come back down to Earth."
Nah, AI value is real. I can't wait to see in 3-6 years to see more self driving cars and humanoid robots working in factories, industrial, etc.
Companies have already reported that it's cheaper to use people than AI.
https://financialpost.com/technology/companies-burning-through-ai-tokens-racking-up-bills
For how long?
Companies in 1965 reports computers take up too much space and cost too much
Token cost going down and tokens per task going down.
It’s funny how technology gets cheaper and more scalable over time, and thus more widely adopted. It’s like we’ve seen this movie before once or twice in history…
"years to see more self driving cars and humanoid robots working in factories, industrial, etc."
These things have very little too do with a.i. though embedded, software and robotics is where most of this will be this is further evidence that a.i. isn't the future even the hypotheticals of pro ai people aren't even referencing ai
You’re about to have your returns dwarfed by some really stupid ppl this decade.
Yo, if I have a humanoid robot servant working at my house in 6-7 years, that dude should be able to adapt to its environment and handle commands. You bet your ass he's going to have AI integrated into him.
I mean only to the extent that grifters have slapped a.i. labels on everything deep learning and llm's might be nifty in a robot as a gimmick but well written embedded firmware will be most important and probably what's most important for the next few decades of robotics regarding highly repetitive tasks adding a.i. would have horrible impacts on optimization, battery usage, etc. Most people want what they're buying to actually work for awhile effectively and a.i. would work to the detriment of that in embedded robotics.
Its all good to put more and more people out of work, but what happens when that unemployed and struggling group gets big enough?
What do you mass surveillance and robot police dogs are for?
What? Googles revenue is already $600bn, with net icome around $100bn, and Germany's GDP is €4,5 trillion. Your numbers make no sense.
Was about to post this lol
Spy barely up like 3% from its previous October highs and we are in a bubble. Thanks for the reminder to load on the calls
6% up from october highs
$1500 per share is clearly ambitious but i wouldn't call it impossible, as Google did exactly that (going 8x) in the past 10 years and currently is aggressively expanding into Amazons and Microsofts Cloud territorry.
My AI reads his AI and gives me an EL5 summary /s
I personally like value investing.
r/lostredditors
/s
Posts like these are uploaded several times daily. Eventually people see the patterns and language used in ai posts.
I stopped reading after the second AI tell.
"Hello Fellow Apes,"
I'm out. Last person out, get the lights please.
Just came here for the comments lol
“Hello fellow Apes”
respectfully fuck off
ya ur smarter than google nvidia and amazon apparently
This is a great summary and I couldn't agree more.
You know back when all the MAG7 had market caps around 500 billion or below, all of the narrative was that 1 trillion was a ludicrous market cap that was larger than the GDP of many countries. It would never happen.
Now we have multiple at 2-5 trillion market cap.
Not saying you're wrong but I don't agree with these kinds of comparisons. The future may be mega corporations that are as powerful as major countries. Who knows
Simply retards with the tails!!
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