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US Household Wealth Is Now 630% of GDP. JPMorgan Sees Several Warning Signs.
JPMorgan warns US household wealth hit 630% of GDP, highlighting extreme market concentration in AI mega-caps and stretched valuations.
- The AI productivity narrative could represent a genuinely new era, justifying current high valuations.
- Markets can remain expensive for extended periods, so an imminent crash is not guaranteed despite stretched metrics.
- US household wealth at 630% of GDP is historically extreme, surpassing the Dot-Com and 1987 bubbles.
- Market concentration is dangerously high, with the top 10 stocks making up 41% of the S&P 500, heavily reliant on a single AI narrative.
- Valuations are severely stretched with Shiller CAPE near 39 and S&P trading at 25x forward earnings, pricing in incredibly high growth.
I was reading a recent JPMorgan strategy note and one stat really caught my attention. US household wealth is now sitting around 630% of GDP. For context, it was roughy 486% during the Dot-Com bubble and about 435% before the 1987 crash. It´s obviously that doesn't mean a crash is around the corner, but it does suggest asset prices have been growing a lot faster than the underlying economy for quite a while.
Another thing they pointed out is how concentrated the market has become. The top 10 stocks now make up about 41% of the S&P 500, with a huge chunk of that tied to AI and mega-cap tech. A lot of investors probably feel diversified because they own an index fund, but if most of the performance is coming from the same handful of names, i'm not sure diversification means what it used to. Maybe, that´s fine if the AI story keeps delivering, Or maybe we're all underestimating how dependent the market has become on a single narrative.
What's interesting is that JPMorgan isn't really calling for an imminent crash. No, the argument seems more subtle. Valuations are already prettty stretched, the Shiller CAPE is near 39, the S&P is trading around 25x forward earnings, and expectations for future growth remain incredibly high. Markets can stay expensive for a long time, but I keep wondering whether we're looking at a genuinely new era of productivity... or just another period where investors slowly convince themselves that this time is different.
Source: https://finance.yahoo.com/markets/stocks/articles/top-jpmorgan-strategist-shares-4-094501115.html
Difference is the big companies now are legit making so much money and profiting compared to companies back in the days
They’re starting to spend a lot on capex though. If you build too much of anything, especially using debt, you can run into problems.
What else are they supposed to do with all that cash, stock buybacks? Investing in compute infrastructure is not a bad idea, that's going to be a valuable asset for a long time. Plus, they are still profitable despite the ridiculous spend, that's how absurdly wealthy these megacaps are.
Capex isn’t necessarily a problem. Using debt to finance capex can be a problem though, if interest rates rise and/or those investments don’t provide the returns ultimately needed to pay creditors.
A credit crisis can happen even if technology proves transformational. Railroads were transformational but also capital intensive. Too many were built, they couldn’t turn a profit to pay back creditors, defaults and recession resulted.
Technology changes but people, not as much.
Too bad they are spending it all on capex now
Yes and in a mad competitive race which blinds them to reality much more easily
It’s worse than that I think. I think they know the risk of not spending on AI is higher. Unfortunately that means A LOT of capital will be eviscerated with little ROI for investors. A small group invested in the companies who are successful will benefit but most of the capital will be wasted.
Fair point. Today's companies are far stronger than most of the dot-com era names. The question isn't whether they're great businesses. It's whether investors are paying too much for future growth. Cisco was a great business too, but that didn't stop the stock from disappointing for years.
Who’s going to buy their stuff when the circlejerk slows
Only the hardware stocks, which as you're hopefully aware of, are very cyclical.
Maan, I do believe that assets are inflated and I am worried that a crash might be coming.
But some of the other things are just irrelevant - top 10 stocks in snp500 were 40% long before AI was a thing, and their businesses are making crazy money (with the exception of tesla ffs). Yeah multiples are a bit high, but not bubble territory, we're possibly just looking at sustained very high inflation. The diversification point is totally moot as well - even if I'm holding only Apple or Amazon, 1.5B people use an iPhone and that's not going anywhere, every SaaS company and random website is on AWS, and every western economy is shopping a shitload through amazon. Diversification is very much there, it's just that a handful of companies have captured entire global markets.
Which is why several categories of Chinese products are banned in the US. When one or a few corporations control an entire sector, your market is made out of glass.
Fair point. My concern isn't the quality of the businesses. It's that market diversification and business diversification aren't necessarily the same thing. Apple and Amazon can remain incredible companies for deccades and investors can still end up disappointed if expectations get too far ahead of reality.
JP Morgan also said that Broadcom is on track to reach 300 billion revenue by FY2028.
It looks like the growth is real as CapEx keeps growing.
Just because capex is growing doesn't mean the growth is real, that's circular. The thing driving the capex needs to actually make a profit, or else the music stops and all those hundreds of billions each year stops getting spent
Getting really sick of the pointless endless commentary about the Mag7 being too big and AI possibly not delivering. Nobody knows what's going to happen, why is there so much trivial speculation? Feels like commentators are just selling us fear TBH
People love being scared.
It sells, so they provide it.
It's a pretty compelling argument against overweighting semis and the Mag7 when your passive index fund already has a huge concentration in them.
Plenty of those Reddit AI + space + semis + quantum + <insert speculative tech stock here> would get crushed by a rate hikes cycle, and result in loads of retail investors panic selling and locking in the loss if they see -45% (when the S&P is -12%).
It's perfectly valid for those seriously engaging with the risk/correlation, but when you see people unironically saying things like 'high inflation is good for stocks, akchually', it becomes clear that many retail investors are completely ignoring the risk part of risk-adjusted reward.
That's fair. Nobody knows what's going to happen, and a lot of market commentary does end up being noise. I don't think the point is predicting a crash though, it's just recognizing that concentration and valuations matter, even if they don't tell us anything about next month or next year. Sometimes risk isn't about being bearish, it's about understanding what assumptions are already priced in.
Unironically they have substantial financial stakes in datacenters, especially Apollo.
Consider that current inflation and geopolitical situation also push people to buy more durable goods which increases the price of assets. Also, nowadays the amount of investors trading with stock has skyrocketed due to modern technologies. All this brings the price of shares up.
Flooded with “anything.ai” instead of “anything.com” this time around — bullish on Anguilla?
Please list out for me the "anything.ai" companies that have gone public without real monetiziation.
CRVW went last year and booked $2b in revenue last quarter with over 100% growth.
CBRS just went and had half billion in revenue last year and has a current backlog of over $20b.
I don't understand why anyone cares about these cooked statistics anymore. Just drive ten miles in any direction. If you live in one of the little wealth bubbles, you will find the poverty that is rampant in the US. We are like a 3rd world SEA country, but without the nice cities. I believe my eyes and ears. Everything costs twice as much and nobody makes twice as much. Everyone is complaining about money. But I'm supposed to believe we are all rich.
Is the 'Wealth' in the room with us?
Wealth should be compared by the capital earning part of the economy.
Since the share going to capital has grown faster that GDP (eating away wages) it makes sense that wealth/gdp is now a lot higher
AI is in its infancy state yet everyone keeps saying it's a bubble.
It's possible companies are spending to much money on it without enough returns. But AI isn't going away...
AI being a bubble isn't about it 'going away'. It can still be here to stay AND be a bubble. Like the internet didn't go away when the dotcom bubble burst
It's as if you didn't read my post about technology advancing and the need for better power sources. Or the evolution of PCs.
The earth being blanketed in data centers isn't realistic. Data centers need to take up less space and power. Unless you want the earth to become the Matrix. Maybe instead of prisons we can turn criminals into batteries...
No, it's definitely different this time.
I mean now you still have that stock comp but no capital return to shareholders so……
Everything will crash once the last boomer has died
Maybe they should build infrastructure and fund food kitchens so people don’t starve?
Just spitballing.
Exactly.