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r/valueinvestingr/valueinvesting· u/Hungry_Confection108· 1d agoDetailed Investment Analysis 1

NOVO is a great play at this price

Investor summaryBullish

Novo Nordisk's price cuts will deter competitors, while European expansion and a promising pipeline challenge Eli Lilly's dominance.

Bull points
  • Price cuts will deter competitors and compound pharmacies, allowing NVO to leverage its scale to become the trusted, low-cost standard.
  • Obesity treatments will transition to high-volume, lower-margin products, generating stable cash flows to fund future innovation.
  • Wegovy is just starting to penetrate the strict EU market, and pipeline candidates like UBT251 show strong potential to capture market share.
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I wanted to share my thesis on Novo Nordisk (NVO) about why its a great investment at this price. I’m not a financial expert—just a long-term investor sharing my perspective.

First of all, many people seems to be freaking out about the recent price cuts, but I actually think they could be very beneficial in the long run. The obesity market is enormous, and Wegovy—or whatever succeeds it—could remain a strong product even after patent expiration thanks to Novo's scale, manufacturing capabilities, and pricing power.

As prices come down, there will be less incentive for compounding pharmacies and copycat manufacturers to enter the market. Given Novo's production scale, competitors may struggle to achieve attractive returns while matching Novo's pricing and maintaining acceptable margins. In other words, Novo could establish itself as the low-cost, trusted standard and effectively price out a large portion of the competition.

After all, if you have the option to buy a well-known brand with a proven track record for only a few dollars more than an unknown alternative with questionable manufacturing standards, which one are you going to choose?

As obesity treatments become high-volume, lower-margin products, they could generate stable and recurring cash flows that support future innovation. This would provide Novo with a reliable earnings base and a degree of insulation from the inherent volatility of the biopharmaceutical industry.

Another point worth mentioning is Europe. The EU has a much stricter regulatory environment than the United States, and Wegovy is only beginning to realize its full potential here. As for Foundayo, approval may not be a question of when, but rather if.

Looking further ahead, UBT251 and several other pipeline candidates appear very promising. They could eventually take a meaningful share of the obesity market and challenge Eli Lilly's current dominance. In the meantime, Novo still has several important growth drivers, including oral Wegovy and potentially an oral version of CagriSema.

The increasing use of AI in drug discovery could also accelerate development timelines across the industry or increase the scale of drugs in development. Novo may not currently be in the number one position, but it possesses extensive know-how, deep resources, and decades of experience in metabolic diseases. In my view, the company is well positioned to regain a more reasonable valuation and potentially deliver another strong growth cycle.

There is also the possibility that Novo expands more aggressively into peptides and related therapeutic areas. If that happens, the opportunity could be substantially larger than obesity alone. The market for performance enhancement, healthy aging, and broader metabolic optimization may eventually dwarf today's obesity market.

Overall, I see Novo evolving into a company with a dual-engine business model: high-volume, lower-margin baseline products generating dependable cash flow, combined with high-margin, innovative therapies that drive long-term growth even beyond obesity playground. That combination could significantly reduce some of the traditional risks associated with biotech investing.

I'm not suggesting that Eli Lilly won't be able to compete or adapt. In fact, Lilly has executed exceptionally well. However, Novo appears to be taking a different approach by pushing injectable therapies toward a more accessible, mass-market model. If successful, this could ultimately lead to a Novo–Lilly duopoly in the obesity and metabolic disease space.

I would also like to see Novo borrow a page from Lilly's playbook and focus on combining weight-loss therapies with molecules that mitigate side effects and improve tolerability. That could become an important competitive advantage over time.

As for the near term, my expectation is that Q2 results will be solid, although perhaps not spectacular. Assuming there are no major setbacks, I believe Q3 and Q4 could be the real highlights, driven by the rollout of oral Wegovy across Europe and continued development in the U.S. market.

In addition, Denmark's planned 3% reduction in corporate tax rates could provide a meaningful boost to earnings going forward.

NOVO wasnt a great investment at 140€... it was a great story and company back then. But now at 38€ the story is not as good and NOVO is overshadowed by LLY... but at this price its a steal and great investment. Also it works as awesome hedge against AI craze and potential economy downturn.

If I had to guess then there is very solid room to grow short term by end of the year to atleast 55-60€.

Discussion · top comments29 selected
u/madrox1 1· 22h ago

NVO cant get out of its own way.

u/CapitalSetting3696 1· 1d ago

Not this shit again

u/tptpp 1· 1d ago

nope

u/Exciting_Ask_eaty 1· 12h ago

I wouldn’t put Servicenow in the same category though

u/Hanshautreinhart 1· 12h ago

I put it there on purpose.

u/Organic-Web-4976 1· 16h ago

This sub never learns.

u/Tedious-Butcher 1· 19h ago

I was a believer. Now i am not. Here is why. Novo ozempic is great. It is cheaper compared to Eli lilly mounjaro. But here is the truth. Despite mounjaro being more expensive, people prefer to buy them instead. The reasons are simple. The effect to lose weight is better. That is not all, ozempic target GLP-1 only whereas Mounjaro targets GLP-1 and GIP. Translation, mournjaro helps people to surpress their appetite and lower blood sugar more effectively. It just is. I have asked customers for the difference.

Now lets talk about their new products. Eli's retatrutide and novo's cagrisema. Eli's new product is still better than Novo's new product in terms of weight loss percentage.

Even their oral product, eli is more superior than novo.

If you think i am wrong. Have a quick search and feel free to ask customers.

u/Hungry_Confection108 1· 16h ago

How is Foundayo better than Wegovy?

u/encony 1· 19h ago

Whenever someone mentions any company that is not at ATH anymore (Adobe, Paypal, Novo), someone likes you comes along and says iTs a ValUe TraP, deAd hOrsE

u/Brilliant_Voice1126 1· 11h ago

Sometimes because it is. This horse has been beat so many times and people have lost so much money believing there is more to Novo than their insulin business. They’ve got no bench.

The real value is Pfizer. Beat down from loss of Covid business but with a drug pipeline over 100 deep, just finished a pivot with combined acquistions and trimming of fat, got their expected earning drop but beat estimates, 6% divi like clockwork, next year they’ll tear and $26 is a massive discount. Pfizer makes novo look like a mom and pop shop.

u/Interesting-Funny657 1· 3h ago

Bro you can't even differentiate from DKK and $

u/Substantial_Dog8413 1· 4h ago

I get it for NVO but for crm or now or adbe or even msft how do you know ehrb the knife stopped falling? 😅

u/infantsonestrogen 1· 7h ago

I mean I look at it and can’t see how it’s not a slam dunk. Their payout ratio is low and ultimately they have capital to pickup some other drugs to expand their pipeline. It feels like buying jnj 3 years ago or something

u/Desperate-Fix-4619 1· 11h ago

I lost $1000 on NVO after following advice here.

u/randomguy506 1· 1d ago

They litterary need to reinvent their portfolio, which requires lots of capital.

They totally blew with glp1

u/-Johnny_Utah- 1· 1d ago

Exactly. I think it’s the PayPal bag holders turn in the rotation to resume spamming.

u/Old_Man_Heats 1· 1d ago

So once a spammed stock does well you forget about it? Why didn’t you include Google or unh

u/Beginning-Novel-4213 1· 22h ago

Or meta

u/NectarineNegative769 1· 1d ago

In it since $41. It is a no brainer. Especially with Don Tzu annoying all the Europeans so that puts NVO ahead of Eli Lily. $80 by end of year

u/JohnSomm 1· 1d ago

It might still be early but if the next earnings numbers come up half decent it should add at least 30 percent to its valuation imo.

u/TechTuna1200 1· 1d ago

The strategy is just calling for a stock price turnaround everyday, until it happens. For Novo, it’s almost been 1.5 years people have been calling for a turnaround everyday.

u/Hungry_Confection108 1· 1d ago

"The new government will cut Denmark’s corporate tax rate from 22 per cent – the joint highest in the Nordics – by 3 percentage points in the next three years, and eliminate income tax bands for the highest earners."

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2026/06/03/new-danish-government-to-cut-corporate-tax/

and many other sources...

u/TechTuna1200 1· 1d ago

Ah yeah, you are right. It says here.

https://www.beierholm.dk/viden-og-indsigt/nyheder-og-artikler/her-er-regeringens-planer-skatter-og-afgifter

With that being, it doesn’t means it garanteed to happen. It’s not the only they promised. They also announced other things that are quite costly e.g. free Dentist and less tax on stocks, so they to find the financing on it.

It’s also a minority government with 82 mandates, so they need help from other parties outside the govement coalition.

u/Hungry_Confection108 1· 1d ago

Yup... nevertheless it was not the key point in my post just a potential cherry on top.

I understand where you are coming from with the first part of original message. But given the price level NOVO trades at... there is real merit to my post...

u/GordoToJupiter 1· 1d ago

At 27.4 euros looks atractive. But I see posible a second entry at 21

u/allnamestaken4892 1· 1d ago

A home grown American company vs some random Danish startup? I think we all know where the smart money is at.

u/Hungry_Confection108 1· 1d ago

A) its Denmark... B) NOVO is company with its roste in 1920s C) yeah, there is no passive inflow from S&P but the potential for repricing is crazy with NOVO...

u/DoubleFamous5751 1· 1d ago

Fuck, I’m up on this. Think it’s time to sell

u/Ok-Recommendation925 1· 1d ago

Of those three names you mentioned:

One of them is better positioned to be much stickier in the world of Agentic AI.

The other has the legacy IP moats to ensure it sticks to corporations, for now until the AI imagery costs go lower.

And lastly, you have PainPal....