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r/wallstreetbetsr/wallstreetbets· u/jackson_durai· 17h agoDiscussion 0

Explaining the SpaceX IPO: How a $75B raise leads to a $1.77 Trillion valuation and why insiders can’t just dump the stock?

Investor summaryBullish

Explains the math behind SpaceX's $1.77T IPO valuation and why insider lock-ups and SEC rules prevent massive post-IPO sell-offs.

Bull points
  • Valuation premium is justified by future dominance in Starlink, AI, and orbital infrastructure.
  • Insider dumping is prevented by 180-day lock-ups and SEC Rule 144 limits.
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There is a lot of confusion around the math of the SpaceX IPO. People see headlines about raising $75 billion, but then hear the company is valued at over $1.7 trillion with a crazy Price-to-Sales (P/S) ratio over 90x.

Here is a simple breakdown of how the math actually works, and why insiders can't just crash the market.

  1. The Math: Capital Raised vs. Total Valuation

SpaceX is pricing its IPO shares at $135 each to raise $75 billion.

  • The Float: That $75 billion represents only 4.3% of the company’s total shares being sold to the public.
  • The Valuation: The remaining 95.7% of shares are still held by Elon Musk, insiders, and early investors. When you multiply the $135 share price by all outstanding shares, you get the $1.77 trillion valuation.
  • The P/S Ratio: SpaceX brings in roughly $18.7 billion in revenue. Dividing $1.77 trillion by $18.7 billion gives a P/S ratio of \~95x. Investors are paying a massive premium because they are pricing in the future dominance of Starlink, AI integrations, and orbital infrastructure.
  1. Why Insiders Can't Just "Dump and Profit"

With 95.7% of the shares locked up, a common question is: Why don't insiders just dump their shares after the IPO to lock in massive profits before retail investors lose money?

Federal laws and legal contracts prevent this:

  • Lock-Up Agreements: Insiders sign contracts banning them from selling any shares for typically 180 days after the IPO.
  • Paper Losses vs. Cash Losses: If the stock tanks, insiders lose "paper wealth" (net worth), not physical cash. Because their original cost basis from years ago is pennies, they remain highly profitable even if the stock drops 50%.
  • SEC Rule 144: Insiders cannot sell more than \~1% of total shares in any 3-month window.
  1. The "95 Investors" Loophole Doesn't Work

What if 95 different pre-IPO investors each own 1% of the company, and they all decide to sell at the same time to bypass the 1% rule?

The SEC thought of this. Under Rule 144, if multiple investors coordinate or act with the same strategy, they are legally classified as a "group acting in concert."

Instead of getting a 1% limit each, the SEC aggregates them. The entire group is restricted to a combined limit of just 1% total for that 3-month window. If they try it anyway, Form 144 filings trigger immediate SEC red flags, resulting in frozen assets and market manipulation charges.

TL;DR: SpaceX is only selling 4.3% of itself to the public. The trillion-dollar valuation reflects the whole company, not just what was raised. Insiders are legally locked down by the SEC and contracts, making a coordinated insider "dump" impossible.

Discussion · top comments15 selected
u/Ok-Sheepherder7898 1· 15h ago

OP just asked an AI and pasted it in.  None of this is real world truth.

u/Odd-Elderberry-6137 1· 15h ago

Not without feeding it the S1.

u/jackson_durai 1· 15h ago

Ofcourse! But I do think some banks offer retail investors loan if they pledge their securities, there are some stipulations ofcourse!

u/RedElmo65 1· 15h ago

I’m poor and my $200 is also paper money. It’s in my brokerage account holding a 5DTE

u/Ahamadrayasbaboon 1· 15h ago

Maybe so, but I can punch “(ticker) lockup” into google and immediately find 3 websites posting the correct info without having to guess whether the LLM is full of shit or chase down sources.

u/JawnGrimm 1· 15h ago

That's what I've heard and apparently it's all about setting up 401Ks to act as exit liquidity if things go south (?) Idk. I don't have a 401K or investments.

u/jackson_durai 1· 15h ago

It's tactical they're getting listed on the Nasdaq. The nasdaq index fund and 401Ks investing in them might keep the demand alive for sometime atleast.

u/JawnGrimm 1· 15h ago

Yikes. Glad I'm not involved

u/jackson_durai 1· 15h ago

I'm betting it would fall below IPO, as thr only profitable component is Starlink for now, the Rocket launches and xAI are currently loss making, cash burning

u/jackson_durai 1· 15h ago

It would be tactical if he could swap high interest loans with low interest ones, that might tilt things in the company's favour. But anyway, I think F-33 in the Balance sheet says, the financing arrangements are at an average of 5.5% fixed interest rate which seems pretty competitive. The total non current liability (36 Billion USD) as of March 31, 2026 stands at 35% of Assets.

u/Javier-AML 1· 15h ago

I tried to do that (borrow using stonks as collateral) and my bank told me to go fuck myself.

u/RedElmo65 1· 15h ago

Did you listen and follow your bank ? Maybe next time they’ll let you borrow.

u/Aware_Listen2274 1· 15h ago

infinite money glitch, just for the ultra rich

u/Dealer_Existing 1· 15h ago

Damn that’s rough. So did we reach peak model? No need anymore for more datacenters as newer models get banned

u/AllCapNoBrake 1· 15h ago

Oh no. Israel/Palantir will make sure we get ALL of the data centers.