The AI Trade - Long Term Opinion
Author argues AI chip trade is overvalued, predicting long-term winners will be vertically integrated giants like MSFT, GOOG, and META.
- Long-term AI beneficiaries will be companies active across multiple layers, allowing them to capture revenue and reduce costs.
- Vertically integrated tech giants are best positioned to maximize margins and dominate the AI ecosystem over time.
- The current AI trade is overly focused on short-term beneficiaries like chips and hardware, which are nearing peak business performance.
- The massive infrastructure buildout is unsustainable and will eventually slow down, limiting long-term growth for pure-play hardware stocks.
TLDR: The ai trade is out of wack, looking at current winners and disregarding long-term winners.
This is my personal outlook, please point out anywhere my logic or assumptions seem flawed.
The AI industry has 5 layers. From bottom to top they go,
- Chips (silicon, semis): NVDA, TSMC, AMD, MU, etc. To a lesser extent, AMZN, GOOG, and in the future MSFT
- Infrastructure (cooling, data centers): VRT, ETN, CEG, MAFT, GOOG, META
- Computer/Cloud (cloud): MSFT, GOOG, AMZN
- Models (the models being run): GOOG, Open AI, Anthropic, META, MSFT (starting to develop their own model)
- Applications/end users (workflows, apps, software, anything that consumers see/use.): MSFT, CRM, PLTR, NOW, SAP, GOOG, Open AI, Anthropic
When people refer to an “AI Bubble” they are referring exclusively to the first step and sometimes second in the chips and hardware that have seen a major run up, but these are the shortest term benefactors of the ai trade. With the current massive buildout, these plays are seeing the most gains both stock wise and business wise. While they were/are still a great investment in many cases, this next year or two will likely be their “top” in terms of pure business performance. The question is not “if” The insane buildout will stop, it’s “when”. And while the floor for these companies is permanently raised because there will still be upgrades and maintenance spending, the current trajectory is not permanent or long term.
Long-term, the companies in each of the next three steps are poised for the biggest benefit, specifically those with exposure to more than one of those steps - GOOG, MSFT, META. For extra “step” a company is active in, either revenue is collected in each step, or costs are reduced. I’ll use MSFT as an example.
With their Maia chips, they are able to spend less on their buildout, as they are not paying a premium for chip design. Further down the line (similar to GOOG and AMZN) it is likely they also begin selling their chips and collecting revenue in this first step.
Then there’s cloud/infrastructure that go hand in hand. Every prompt, every action taken further down the line needs this compute. MSFT collects revenue on this, and when their own models begin rolling out, their cloud cost will be lower, as they aren’t paying for it.
Then is the model layer. This is self explanatory - just the models that gets utilized in prompts, actions, workflows, etc. Every prompt has costs flowing down to the cloud/infrastructure level. For MSFT, they are currently “renting” models from Open AI, Anthropic, etc. in Copilot, although they are still collecting subscription revenue on Copilot, their margins are thinner than if they had their own model - which they are currently working on creating.
Finally is the application/end user uses. For some, this is simply the LLM subscriptions. For others it is the software that utilizes the LLMs for tasks or whatever. Every use of these flows through the Models/LLMs, to the cloud compute, and to infrastructure. With MSFT, this is Copilot and workflows that can be made from it. Eventually, flowing through their own model and cloud compute.
Long term, the companies that will benefit most from AI are those in steps 3-5. With every additional step a company is exposed to, their benefit is multiplied because they are either collecting revenue at each step, reducing their own costs at each step, or a combination of both.
In conclusion, I believe the biggest long term winners (out of known names, I’m sure there will be new companies that pop up and kill it) will be those exposed to cloud, models, and end uses. These are MSFT, GOOG, and (to a lesser extend because their cloud is private) META.
I believe Microsoft is turning into a cult in this sub, every 5 minutes someone is gonna post about Microsoft
Not mad about it
Microsoft shall awake from it's downtrend!
100%
This wasn’t made to highlight MSFT, just my thought on the long term ai benefactors. MSFT just so happens to be one of them
its all good
I hope MSFT drops under 300. Just sayin to trigger this sub 😂
More microsoft copium. For fucks sake just sell the bags and shut up already. There's real opportunity cost to holding. Know when to cut losers and let your capital work for you.
This isn’t a MSFT post, it’s a post on long term AI winners, of which MSFT happens to be one.
If I were to sell everything an buy something else as you say - what would you have me buy? NVDA, MU, SNDK? None of those are 10+ year olds at these valuations - maybe NVDA
microwho?
anyone who invests in MSFT for their AI software has never used MSFT ai software. enjoy burning your capital
MSFT’s “ai software” is just chat gpt and Claude within a business’s ecosystem. You can say it sucks, but that’s a proxy way of saying Claude/chat gpt sucks.
It also does interact with office, files, etc.
from what I understand, Claude is actually functional with office unlike MS CoPilot
I don’t get meta over amazon.
LLMs drive demand — hyperscalers fund LLMs — hyperscalers sell the cloud space.
The hyperscalers can now leverage this to massive growth in a high margin sector with clear demand.
This is a lot more compelling than Meta’s approach since Amazon has a clear monetization strategy while Meta’s can work and might be better but it is less direct
Meta has been utilizing AI for years and has already generated tons of income from it. They’re one of the few major companies that have actually already been benefiting from AI.
As Jensen Huang said “nobody uses AI better than Meta”
I agree. Meta is better than anyone at using AI. We see this with its ad revenue but the bulk of meta’s capex is to build an AI infrastructure.
There are signs of this working with 1B Llama downloads and deep integration. So this is partly driving the 13.5B revenue growth.
However, 13.5B needs to be consistently growing at high rates which is a harder sell (at least to me) than cloud. Cloud grew at 8.26 and we expect it to grow to 10B next quarter. We can see a direct connection between capex spend to growth as anthropic is desperate for more cloud.
So, I guess my question is Google, Microsoft and Amazon are all doing the same thing why would amazon be excluded when they are the cloud king and the best friend of the top model?

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