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r/wallstreetbetsr/wallstreetbets· u/Pristine_Humor5895· 1d agoDiscussion 0

Micron’s Earnings Were Incredible But Are AI/Semiconductor Expectations Becoming Dangerous?

Investor summaryNeutral

Micron's incredible earnings highlight AI semiconductor strength, but broader market drops and high expectations raise caution.

Bull points
  • Micron's earnings were incredible, showing strong demand in memory, DRAM, HBM, and data centers.
  • Lower oil prices and controlled 10-year Treasury yields support growth, tech, and AI stocks.
  • The broader market is in one of the greatest bull runs of our lifetime.
Bear points
  • Nasdaq and S&P 500 experienced significant drops, indicating market complications despite the bull trend.
  • Geopolitical tensions and macroeconomic factors create unpredictable market noise.
  • AI and semiconductor expectations might be becoming dangerously high after Micron's earnings.
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We may be witnessing one of the greatest bull runs of our lifetime.

But this past week was a good reminder that even in a bull market, things can get complicated very quickly.

The Nasdaq fell around 5% for the week, while the S&P 500 dropped around 2%. So yes, the market had a bad week. But I do not think it was caused by just one single factor. There were multiple events happening at the same time, and some of the market reaction was not easy to explain cleanly.

So before getting into Micron, I think it is worth laying out the broader setup.

First, the market was still dealing with geopolitical noise.

Last week, the assumption was that tensions in the Middle East were cooling after a ceasefire framework was established. But that view was stress-tested throughout the week. There were reports of attacks near the Strait of Hormuz, including a drone strike on a Singapore-flagged commercial vessel, followed by U.S. retaliatory strikes against Iranian missile and drone facilities.

Now, in my opinion, the market is not really trading the war itself anymore. What matters more are two things:

Oil prices and the 10-year Treasury yield.

As long as oil continues to cool and the 10-year stays under control, I think the market will treat most of the geopolitical headlines as noise. Oil has come down significantly from prior highs, and the 10-year Treasury yield also moved lower during the week.

That matters because lower oil reduces inflation pressure, and lower yields help support growth stocks, especially tech and AI names.

So despite the geopolitical noise, I do not think the war headlines were the main reason the market struggled this week.

The bigger event, in my opinion, was Micron’s earnings.

Micron is currently sitting right in the middle of one of the most important areas of the AI trade: memory, DRAM, HBM, and data center demand.

Because of that, Micron’s earnings were not just about Micron. They were a proxy for the broader AI semiconductor supply chain. The report gave investors a read-through on whether the AI infrastructure buildout is still translating into real revenue, real margins, and real earnings.

And the numbers were incredible.

Q3 Results

|Metric|Consensus Estimate|Actual Reported|Beat|

|:-|:-|:-|:-|

|Revenue|$35.69B|$41.46B|\+16.17%|

|Adjusted EPS|$20.49|$25.11|\+22.55%|

Now, on the surface, you would assume these are the figures that mattered most. But in my opinion, that is not really the case.

I did not really care that much about the previous quarter’s results. I was already confident Micron would beat the $35.7B revenue estimate and the roughly $20.5 EPS estimate. The actual numbers absolutely crushed consensus, but that was not what I was focused on.

What I cared about was forward guidance.

Wall Street does not only care about what happened last quarter. What really matters is whether the company can continue growing, and if so, by how much.

And this is where Micron’s report became even more interesting.

Q4 Guidance

|Metric|Wall Street Expectations|Micron Guidance|

|:-|:-|:-|

|Revenue|\~$43B|$49B$51B|

|Adjusted EPS|\~$25|$30$32|

|Gross Margin|\~81.8%|\~86%|

That is not just a beat.

That is a massive beat-and-raise.

Going into the report, this was my personal framework:

If Micron guided EPS at or below $25, I would seriously consider selling my semiconductor positions.

If guidance came in above $25 but below $27, I would still likely start reducing exposure.

If guidance came in above $27, I would hold for now, while continuing to monitor the broader AI and semiconductor narrative.

Then Micron guided for roughly $31 in EPS.

That changed the equation.

The numbers were strong enough that, at least for now, I think it is fair to say Micron is still healthy and that AI demand is translating into real revenue, real margin expansion, and real earnings power.

But now that I have the bulls’ attention, here comes the more bearish take — or, more accurately, the more reasonable take.

The issue is no longer whether Micron is doing well.

The issue is whether the market is now demanding perfection.

Micron’s earnings trajectory has been insane. EPS went from around $5 toward the end of last year, then to roughly $12, then to $25, and now they are guiding for around $31.

That is incredible. But it also creates a problem.

In recent quarters, Micron has not just met expectations. It has exceeded them by a wide margin. So now, in order to truly impress the market again, simply hitting $31 may not be enough.

If investors are now expecting another 20% upside surprise, then Micron may need to deliver something closer to $37 EPS next quarter just to keep the momentum going. And if that happens, the following quarter’s guidance may need to be even higher — maybe somewhere in the $40+ EPS range — for the market to stay excited.

At that point, we are talking about earnings expectations that are rising at an almost absurd pace.

This is where I think investors need to be careful. The stock has already had a massive move. The market may already be pricing in not only strong execution, but near-perfect execution.

It feels like Micron is no longer being asked to get an A.

It is not even being asked to get an A+.

It is being asked to score 100 out of 100 on every exam, every quarter.

And in a market like this, even a 99 can hurt the share price.

That is what gave me a reality check.

I am not saying Micron is weak. It is clearly not. The company is executing extremely well. But expectations are now so high that the risk/reward is becoming much more balanced than it was before.

Another issue is that Micron is not the only AI-related earnings event in front of us.

In July, we still have more major companies in the broader AI and semiconductor ecosystem reporting earnings, including names like ASML, TSMC, Texas Instruments, Intel, Microsoft, Google, Lam Research, and others.

Each of these earnings reports is basically another landmine for the market.

They could confirm the AI bull case and push the rally even further. Or they could expose weakness in demand, margins, capex, customer concentration, or the ability of Big Tech to keep funding this AI buildout at the current pace.

That is the bigger concern for me.

The market is becoming more focused on the financial capacity of the big tech companies that are effectively feeding the semiconductor companies. If AI infrastructure spending keeps accelerating, that is great for chip companies in the short term. But at some point, investors have to ask whether this spending is sustainable and whether it eventually starts pressuring the buyers themselves.

There is also the reported OpenAI IPO delay. I do not want to overstate it, but I do think it matters for sentiment.

If OpenAI is truly considering delaying its IPO until 2027 because the market may not support the valuation it wants, that is not a great signal. Companies usually want to go public when demand is hot and valuation is favorable. When an IPO gets delayed, it often suggests there is a gap between what the company wants and what the market is willing to pay.

That does not mean OpenAI is in trouble.

But it does suggest the market may be becoming more selective with AI valuations.

And if the market starts becoming more selective with private AI valuations, eventually that mindset can bleed into public AI and semiconductor valuations too.

There were other events this week, including inflation data, but honestly, I do not think those were the main story. The market is forward-looking, and right now, inflation seems to be getting less attention as oil prices cool and investors assume inflation will eventually continue moving lower.

To me, the bigger story is this:

The market is starting to question whether the AI trade is becoming stretched.

Micron’s earnings were excellent. The guidance was even better. The AI demand story is still intact.

But expectations are now extremely high.

I am still holding my semiconductor positions for now because the earnings are simply too strong to ignore. However, I am also becoming more cautious. Over the next few months, I plan to gradually downsize some of my semiconductor exposure when opportunities come up.

That opportunity could come from good news or bad news.

If the sector overreacts to strong earnings or better liquidity conditions, I may sell some shares into strength. If the market starts showing cracks, I may also reduce exposure to protect gains.

I do not think this is a market where it makes sense to panic sell everything at once. The trend is still strong, and there could absolutely be more upside in the short term.

But I also do not think this is the time to use leverage or options aggressively. The risk is too high, and expectations are too stretched.

If you are holding semiconductor names right now, I think you need to be honest with yourself:

Are you comfortable taking a 20% to 30% hit if the narrative turns?

Because at this stage, that is very possible.

The upside is still there, but so is the downside. To me, this has become closer to a 50/50 risk-reward setup. The earnings are real, but the expectations are also becoming extreme.

I am bullish on the businesses.

I am more cautious on the stocks.

Curious how everyone else is looking at this. Is Micron still a buy after this report, or are expectations now becoming dangerous?

Discussion · top comments15 selected
u/CryanRohen 27· 1d ago

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u/ap1618 12· 1d ago

Tl;dr

u/SnooComics5459 10· 1d ago

fries in the bag

u/Kindly-Jury921 8· 1d ago

Felt like this person (or bot) just stole the content from DG using AI. Jeez man

u/CoachCooter 7· 1d ago

AI slop

u/ssuurr33 6· 1d ago

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u/TreGet234 6· 1d ago

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u/justchillingbro 3· 1d ago

You just completely stole the thoughts from a YouTube video posted an hour ago. Original.

u/Feisty-Basis7903 2· 1d ago

Nice write up, really enjoyed reading it.

u/Own-Recipe5908 2· 1d ago

Think you're missing the actual problem (Market is too, but the narrative will probably echo it in the next 12 months).

Micron locked in prices with its biggest customers for the next 5 years, you mentioned. Great, right? But... where is Micron's growth coming from? Are they selling more memory? Not really, production hasn't changed all that much, it's just that everyone is bidding up margins to the moon.

But, they can increase capacity right? Takes a long time, but yeah they can. But they're not really. They folded in some of their excess profits for increased cap-ex, but their percentage of cap-ex spend decreased. They're not investing in their own company like they believe supply/demand will be what it is now a year or two from now. They don't want to build a stupid amount of production into an AI cap-ex drawdown.

Then you have new competition. Memory used to be low margin, but it was always mid-tech, not bleeding edge, there are chip fabs that could make memory that aren't. China is already in and starting production. But fabs like GFS and Intel can get in too. Bloody fucking ocean.

Who knows when this narrative will kick in though. Could be a year before it really bites.

u/Sea-Dragonfruit2250 2· 1d ago

I think what concerns me the most is the continued rise of margins through price hikes. 81% should not be viewed as a good thing. What it’s doing is raising prices for companies like AMZN, AAPL, META, etc… which hurts their business and ultimately, us, the consumer through inflation. Obviously Tim Cook just called this out this week, but it should send up red flags for everyone. Investors are being drawn away from the traditional big tech companies and becoming even more concentrated in just 3-4 memory companies. Micron is going to be the needle that pops the bubble.

u/Lazy--Expression 2· 1d ago

It's a genuine problem and dilemma that the best analyst either don't have a full answer or do not reach consensus. Either way my take is to balance, hedge and weight my portfolio according to my risk tolerance. Keep a close eye to the on-going development, hope for the best and be ready for losses or whipsaws. The payoff can be great so is the risk. Don't invest (gamble) with money you ain't prepared to lose.

All that being said, this is not the expected sub for this discussion, this is a Wendy's and a casino.

u/iwantanxboxplease 2· 1d ago

I'm not reading all that, calls or not?

u/8ceee 2· 1d ago

Why would you post this wsb ? Take this to r/stocks

Just need to see your positions

u/Own-Recipe5908 1· 1d ago

Well, yeah. But at current margins/demand GDDR6, DDR5, and HBM3, even HBM2 are worthwhile.

It's like this:

Here's why HBM is coming for your PC's RAM — HBM consumes around three times the wafer capacity of DDR5 per gigabyte, as AI supercharges demand for chips and advanced packaging | Tom's Hardware

Hyperscalers are starting to be more concerned with number of GB for training than the memory speed.